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Originally Posted by Hell_bound
Although it's true we all have a choice, most of the time though our choices are constrained by our environment, abilities, social status and laws that govern our nations...
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The laws that govern us now...were made by people who made that choice to create such a thing...
Social status? That's just a set of words people "choose" to say about other individuals based on what they have seen.
Abilities...well when we choose to use our abilities correctly (once we see them that is) then maybe...
The environment? Uh that constantly changes from the choices we make while IN the environment. But all in all it's more than likely that it goes both ways, not one way or the other.
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Originally Posted by Hell_bound
...There are a lot of people that have lived that thought they were doing things because they felt they had a choice, a choice that would lead to a better society.
Such people are Martin Luther King jr., Mohandas Gandhi, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, JFK and Salvador Allende.
These people, and many like them, felt that there was a choice that needed to be made, but unfortunately they failed to realize that not all groups within a society, the world, want people to have the freedom to choose...
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It's very ironic that you mention such individuals. I'm chuckling to myself a bit reading this. I'll tell you why...there are two major commonalities you did not mention with these said characters that can possibly prove my point you just quoted even further.
--On a side note, another reason I'm chuckling is...well...you've heard of personality tests right? I'm sure you are familiar with the MBTI or Myers-Briggs Type Indicator tests? Well I took those tests years ago and I still do just to see if I changed in my personality (which I never have changed, I'm still the same) and the result I got was INFJ. Now I'm not here to go into detail on that but you can simply look it up here:
http://www.personalitydesk.com/infj-...escription.php
And you can look it up even more on your own time.--
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Originally Posted by Hell_bound
...The idea of choice goes hand and hand with the idea of individualism - both are a myth. Anyone who thinks other wise is just a fool.
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Now...here is my counter to what you just said near the end. There are two major commonalities between the characters that you just mentioned.
1) These individuals had the same goal in regards to trying, or attempting to make a difference for the better of their society when they were living. Not only that but they made their names noticeable to society around them through their own actions and choices up to a point where some are recognized in history.
2) They were "silenced" (killed)
Now I'm not just referring to the fact that they were killed from being assassinated, we already know that for some of these individuals. Let us look at the reason as to why they were silenced. It seems rather clear that these individuals were silenced for the sole purpose that their voices were becoming too powerful to some people...those people probably disagreed with them, or did not like the way things were going with them, or whatever. Here is something else to consider. Have you not wondered what made these people do what they did? (assassinating these individuals?) These individuals were silenced either by a sole person who made the "choice", or a group of individuals. However, even in the "group assassinations", I could certainly make the assumption that the group was formed by the "choice" of a single individual.
Now where am I getting with all of this? It's simple, the clincher of this post is that these two points I mentioned fall subject to this statement.
And yes...it is a quote...another one. (I'm a man who loves to go by powerful quotes and even made up ones by myself)
"All it takes is one person, a bit of courage, and a single choice to make what could ultimately be the difference in the world..."
Now this statement can clearly go many different ways, however, it makes one thing relatively certain. That is this: The idea of choice is not a myth, it is all around us. It's simply a matter of finding it. Whether the choice is good or bad is dependent on the person obviously. We can make whatever choices we like and it can define us in a way. We may have been "limited" with some choices, however, it has not stopped us from pushing on to continue to make our choices. If you are going to call me a fool for showing belief in this then I give you one last quote to read that I personally made myself and posted previously on here...
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Originally Posted by Xero_Aurion
"The one who denies the beauty or concept behind some things, may not have the right to understand them..."
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Have a good evening, for I have "chosen" to no longer respond to your posts in particular.
Just kidding, but still have a good evening none the less.