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Old 02-27-2010, 08:49 PM   #6
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Man kind is by nature compettitive, this is why capitalism works, it feeds off competition, who has the better job, who has the better product etc, if competition is removed then so is the incentive to be the best, and thus progress is slowed.
No, this is a myth perpetrated by the Capitalist to keep us down. Capitalism DOESN'T work. When's the last time it worked for you? They tell you it feeds off of competition, but it actually only feeds off of exploitation. The Capitalist tells you that competition and being "the best" will be rewarded, but does that ever really happen? Rarely. And only as a demonstration of "the American Dream" to keep you in your place trying in vain to out-do the next guy to please the Capitalist. All the while, lining his pockets. Why compete with the next guy when you two have similar class interests? Why not join with him, tear down the Capitalist, then split the work and the rewards evenly?

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At some point people decided they could do better than a cave, and made huts and tents, then others decided they could do better so made houses then we moved onto increasingly bigger and better buildings all diven by trying to be the best. If everyone was content with what they had we would still be sitting in caves thinking 'well this is nice'
It's important to note that the first human societies, at least at the point you're speaking of (cavemen etc) didn't use money, and didn't have the slightest notion of money or exploiting someone else for their gain. They built better things and shared the technology of fire, tools, etc with each other freely.

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Capitalism and Communism being opposite can hardly co-exist, and there are few examples of communism acctualy working, for it to come even close it would need to be world wide 'workers of the world unite' was a slogan for it at one point. But even then 'some are more equal than others' those in power will always want more and those in power rarely want to give power up (yet a key point of communism is the removal of class's and government). Also if everything is divided evenly, a cleaner working a few hours a week gets the same as a surgeon working 14 hour shifts 6 days a week, then why would people whoot high? Theres no point to try to be the best because you dont gain from your extra work. So production and the number of people in high-end jobs will drop drastically.
Yet another lie perpetrated by the Capitalist.
One of the reasons communism had a rough go in Russia was the external influences of Western Capitalist countries actively sabotaging the Soviets via Economic Sanctions and the constant threat of war.

If everyone is in the workforce, then you won't have surgeons working hour shifts, 6 days a week. With everyone in the workforce work will be split more evenly so that no one has to bear anymore than he is capable of. These stories are fallacies put forth to sway people from realizing the true nature of their plight and scare them into submission to the Capitalist.

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Besides, if you want to overthrow capitalism that is dominant over most of the worlds surface then you will need to 'open the eyes' of literaly billions of people, a subforum in a tiny little MMO is hardly going to make an impact in the grand scale of things
You have to start somewhere. It's the responsibility of every worker to open the eyes of his comrades around him. For me, that includes you all.

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Dont get me wrong, both systems have their evils, there is no denying that, but Id rather stick with the bent-but-working system than gamble on one that has had little success in the world.
Said like a true lap-dog of the Bourgeoisie. That's exactly what they want you to think, speak and convey to others. Stick with the status quo. My friend the status quo has nothing to offer but your exploitation.
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