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Originally Posted by terekon
“The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.”
Gloria Steinem
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Indeed. The absolute truth here, is:
1. Unforeseen circumstances which leads to the individual getting 'disconnected' from Society
2. Religious groups, Modern non-religious Cults and radical groups (Suicide bombers etc) recruiting the vulnerable - especially the group of people from Point No.1
3. Making new recruits do missionary work for them. Whether it be phone calls, door-to-door work, leaflets or Internet adverts.
These leaflets etc always contains sugar-coated words and phrases. Words/phrases that the uneducated (people without all the facts; not related to formal education) would fall in love with, especially if they've lost all hope.
4. They participate in seminars and meetings which re-hashes the points mentioned in the leaflet over and over. Gradually brainwashing them into believing all the rubbish they throw.
5a. Traditional religious groups usually stops there, collecting *voluntary* donations at the end.
5b. Cults and Radicals go much further. They plan to exploit and/or destroy the entire world - for
revenge.
Their primary (and hidden) agenda is to punish
fellow human beings for neglecting them and disconnecting them from society. Methods range from pyramid schemes/scams to Suicide Bombers and public assassinations.
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Originally Posted by Vythica
The answer to all of your questions of how to this or that is the same. Force. There will be bloodshed, and how to deal with the exploiters will be dependent on the situation, thoughtfulness, and morals of the revolutionary generation, so I can't speculate as to how they would be suppressed. I will say that violence is not an inherent quality of force, however.
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Translation: Putting guns to people's heads and forcing them to do things, out of fear. Physical blackmail, essentially.
Corporate brainwashing or physical blackmail... All the same. Why even preach violence and brainwashing if you yourself have run away from it, in the first place? You can't guarantee that arrows and bullets won't destroy the lives of pure innocents in the first place.
A contradiction; a conflict between one personal policy and another.
Not to mention brushing off legit concerns raised by people, replacing them with 'faith' and 'optimism'.
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"We've had to endure much, you and I, but soon there will be order again, a new age. Aquinas spoke of the mythical City on the Hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned it's kings.
Or better than kings. Gods."
-- Bob Page's *radical* opening speech, Deus Ex
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All this reminds me of one point, that CS Lewis made ~50 years earlier: Radical "revolutions" are all based on fascist tendencies.
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For the power of Man to make himself what he pleases means, as we have seen, the power of some men to make other men what they please. In all ages, no doubt, nurture and instruction have, in some sense, attempted to exercise this power. But the situation to which we must look forward will be novel in two respects. In the first place, the power will be enormously increased. Hitherto the plans of educationalists have achieved very little of what they attempted and indeed, when we read them — how Plato would have every infant ‘a bastard nursed in a bureau’, and Elyot would have the boy see no men before the age of seven and, after that, no women, and how Locke wants children to have leaky shoes and no turn for poetry — we may well thank the beneficent obstinacy of real mothers, real nurses, and (above all) real children for preserving the human race in such sanity as it still possesses. (CS Lewis)
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