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Originally Posted by blood-raven
1) there are some real communist countries remaining: north korea, cuba and vietnam.
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Those countries are socialist countries. Soviet Union was also a socialist republic. To read a definition about communism read my post above.
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nope, i also never said that, i do said that where communists are at power there are a lot of people who die for it, and that is not because of the crime of some low-on-money people, it's of the f*cking gouverment, lenin and stalin have the blood of millions on there hand, there is a large mass grave near st petersburg where no one is allowed, u know what's in there? 100000 bodies of people who not agreed or simply 'did not fit' in those mad mens world, the exact number of dead in sovjet russia is not even known. i don't think u know but, i gues u know auchwitz? u know from anne frank, well the popular history sais that the russians 'liberated' the camp and left it all together, the truth is that the camp functioned further but now under sovjet rule, they even used the knowledge of german camps to build there own in siberia.
and look what china did whit tibet also there are lot's of prisons there filled with politic prisoners, remember the riot on the Tiananmen Square in 1989? where chinees thanks drove in on protesting students, but i must say, china is on the better hand since they start to have sence now and make comunism work in a good way. but there crimes still last.
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I agree that these are bad examples of socialism, but this could also happen in countries with a capitalistic system. Bolivia is a nicer example for a socialism.
Socialism could also work with democratic laws, decisions and without human rights abuse of the goverment IMHO.
Capitalism is based on greediness, materialism, consumption, competition and exploitation of the nature. And its really not a guarantee for no abuse of human rights, especially not in police states where politicians think 99.9% of their citizens are potential terrorists.