Item +damage bonus nerf on amun

metsie · 08-14-2010, 04:41 PM

So I heard that damage bonus on weapons/jewelry is about 60% compared to what they give on horus.

+50 -> +30

+34 -> +20

Items still have same numbers in description but effect in char screen is something like that amun vs horus, so if this is true can we get 40% money back from box items

j/k

not a nice way to nerf items that are bought by real money IMO.

Comp · 08-14-2010, 04:43 PM

I would have to agree here. It would be in the best interest of NGD to rectify this in some way - given that customers paid $$ for these things.

_Enio_ · 08-14-2010, 04:50 PM

While this kind of change might be nice for testing around with it we hopefully get it changed to the real damage values if this stays.

The current version is very misleading eg. when you add a +15 dmg gem to your weapon while it in effect adds only 9ish damage.

UmarilsStillHere · 08-14-2010, 05:01 PM

I do still agree that weps had to much of an effect on your damage but rather than decreasing wep effectiveness why not increase stat effectiveness? Everyone will hit more (people feel buffed) increase health/mana as well (people feel buffed)

If you boost the health enough then you still get your longer fights, just people feel stronger rather than weaker, downside is every fixed damage spell would probably need have to have its values increased.

Is there any reason NGD went the opposite way on this?

tarashunter · 08-15-2010, 01:45 AM

Ngd will never give money back...if they must give the 40% back only for xim spent for weapon,i can buy lot of bow.So i hope it,but i know that for them is a great dmg so they will never do that.
I can only add that:
i got all 6 classes lvl 50 and i spent LOT of time,MONEY(that are real and i spent lot of for gems and weapon for ALL 6 classes),i traded lot of rare items to have on my character SLOW overpowered weapons.
Well....after that i gone on amun and test it.
The result is that my archers(hunter and marks) now got completely no stuff,because hunter got the huge dmg nerf without head of the pack(i usually play it petless so now i must abbandone it because is a useless character),my marks does 270 normal hit with an OP slow weapon(i spent xim to make soket and find a gem +11ice...wasted,so now i got to find another weapon,spend other xim to remove gem and to embed another soket on a new bow).
My barb got eve hammer+soket but i can say is fine.
My conju's staff slow on horus do 300/350 dmg,i removed gem because on amun the same staff was a tragedy.
Then i won the champ bow after the event,and i put on 2 great gem,so i must buy xim to remove because champ bow now suck on amun...then i won it with hunter that without head of the pack for my playstile is definitely dead.

-ps:i'm speacking of REAL MONEY and TIME for grind and researc, spent to find my SLOW OP weapon.
Now i got to remake all to have medium weapon for each class?!No thanx.No other real money after i saw how the things gone,and all that i lost.

By the other way i must say that testing more the update on amun i like that(weapon lost apart).

ieti · 08-15-2010, 08:16 AM

You talk about damage attributes on weapons. What about Cast Speed, Attack Speed? I spend all my gold to get magna and then trade for good cast staffs and equipment. I doubt 10-12% CS will make real difference on amun...

Anything have to be done so this items continue to be usable and good with new situation. Some people spend real money to get them.

doppelapfel · 08-15-2010, 11:31 AM

Boni are now what they should be: Small helpers that might decide a fight of 2 equal skilled persons. Before it was easy to win with the right gear, no matter the skill (at least in warlocks, marks and hunters case).

Gabburtjuh · 08-15-2010, 11:33 AM

boni arent what they should be, ppl paid for a bigger difference, you can loot those items to, or buy them from xim users, this update is just getting
20-30%of the effectiveness from your items while you paid for 100%

Raindance · 08-15-2010, 12:03 PM

NGD won't give you all your money back and mail it to your doorstep's, however they could've done the Horus Anniversary event this year and gave us Ximerin as a present (about 1500 or 2000) as they did in a past event long ago, which was 1500.

A small gift like that wouldn't hurt would it? It could be for an upcomming event...

tarashunter · 08-15-2010, 12:39 PM

1500 xim or 2000?lol i spent more and more to buy weapons....to soket them...and to remove gems....
And all the time i spent to grind?!
lol....
No one told me to do that,but if i know that game have this kind of change, with ximerin i can try to find medium wepon not slow oine as i have.
And repeat,i done that for all 6 char,and when you buy lukybox,often you find crappy items,so you can immagine how many lukybox i used.
You can't know it,but ngd yes,they just can check my credit card payment on their xim services.

08-14-2010, 04:41 PM	#1
metsie Apprentice Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 59	Item +damage bonus nerf on amun So I heard that damage bonus on weapons/jewelry is about 60% compared to what they give on horus. +50 -> +30 +34 -> +20 Items still have same numbers in description but effect in char screen is something like that amun vs horus, so if this is true can we get 40% money back from box items j/k not a nice way to nerf items that are bought by real money IMO.

08-14-2010, 04:43 PM	#2
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	I would have to agree here. It would be in the best interest of NGD to rectify this in some way - given that customers paid $$ for these things. __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...)

08-14-2010, 04:50 PM	#3
_Enio_ Marquis Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,843	While this kind of change might be nice for testing around with it we hopefully get it changed to the real damage values if this stays. The current version is very misleading eg. when you add a +15 dmg gem to your weapon while it in effect adds only 9ish damage. __________________ Fix the Marksman subclass: Suggestion

08-14-2010, 05:01 PM	#4
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	I do still agree that weps had to much of an effect on your damage but rather than decreasing wep effectiveness why not increase stat effectiveness? Everyone will hit more (people feel buffed) increase health/mana as well (people feel buffed) If you boost the health enough then you still get your longer fights, just people feel stronger rather than weaker, downside is every fixed damage spell would probably need have to have its values increased. Is there any reason NGD went the opposite way on this? __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

08-15-2010, 08:16 AM	#6
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	You talk about damage attributes on weapons. What about Cast Speed, Attack Speed? I spend all my gold to get magna and then trade for good cast staffs and equipment. I doubt 10-12% CS will make real difference on amun... Anything have to be done so this items continue to be usable and good with new situation. Some people spend real money to get them. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

08-15-2010, 01:45 AM	#5
tarashunter Initiate Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Retired Posts: 203	Ngd will never give money back...if they must give the 40% back only for xim spent for weapon,i can buy lot of bow.So i hope it,but i know that for them is a great dmg so they will never do that. I can only add that: i got all 6 classes lvl 50 and i spent LOT of time,MONEY(that are real and i spent lot of for gems and weapon for ALL 6 classes),i traded lot of rare items to have on my character SLOW overpowered weapons. Well....after that i gone on amun and test it. The result is that my archers(hunter and marks) now got completely no stuff,because hunter got the huge dmg nerf without head of the pack(i usually play it petless so now i must abbandone it because is a useless character),my marks does 270 normal hit with an OP slow weapon(i spent xim to make soket and find a gem +11ice...wasted,so now i got to find another weapon,spend other xim to remove gem and to embed another soket on a new bow). My barb got eve hammer+soket but i can say is fine. My conju's staff slow on horus do 300/350 dmg,i removed gem because on amun the same staff was a tragedy. Then i won the champ bow after the event,and i put on 2 great gem,so i must buy xim to remove because champ bow now suck on amun...then i won it with hunter that without head of the pack for my playstile is definitely dead. -ps:i'm speacking of REAL MONEY and TIME for grind and researc, spent to find my SLOW OP weapon. Now i got to remake all to have medium weapon for each class?!No thanx.No other real money after i saw how the things gone,and all that i lost. By the other way i must say that testing more the update on amun i like that(weapon lost apart).

08-15-2010, 11:31 AM	#7
doppelapfel Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 715	Boni are now what they should be: Small helpers that might decide a fight of 2 equal skilled persons. Before it was easy to win with the right gear, no matter the skill (at least in warlocks, marks and hunters case).

08-15-2010, 11:33 AM	#8
Gabburtjuh Baron Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere where grinding does NOT exist Posts: 822	boni arent what they should be, ppl paid for a bigger difference, you can loot those items to, or buy them from xim users, this update is just getting 20-30%of the effectiveness from your items while you paid for 100% __________________ EX - Dutch Wannabe OP/Tank / Wannado Bash marks/knight/barb 60 Chuck Norris hunter 52 One Bite Snack, 60 barb / Wang King, 60 knight

08-15-2010, 12:03 PM	#9
Raindance Initiate Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 234	NGD won't give you all your money back and mail it to your doorstep's, however they could've done the Horus Anniversary event this year and gave us Ximerin as a present (about 1500 or 2000) as they did in a past event long ago, which was 1500. A small gift like that wouldn't hurt would it? It could be for an upcomming event...

08-15-2010, 12:39 PM	#10
tarashunter Initiate Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Retired Posts: 203	1500 xim or 2000?lol i spent more and more to buy weapons....to soket them...and to remove gems.... And all the time i spent to grind?! lol.... No one told me to do that,but if i know that game have this kind of change, with ximerin i can try to find medium wepon not slow oine as i have. And repeat,i done that for all 6 char,and when you buy lukybox,often you find crappy items,so you can immagine how many lukybox i used. You can't know it,but ngd yes,they just can check my credit card payment on their xim services.