The.Frigging.Lag A-G-A-I-N

Miraculix · 01-29-2008, 07:57 PM

Okey I'm on a very fragile nerve state at the moment. This game is just UNPLAYABLE. Whenever a couple of players from other realms appear, BOOM, insta-freeze. Lag goes up to 200 SECONDS. This happened to me before, but was fixed at some point ("fixed"... only got 10-20 seconds lag) and the result was the same. I ended up unfreezing after everyone left my screen, and of course, dead.

The only thing I can do now in the game is level, level, level, which is tremendously boring, because of course, the PvE aspect of the game is ridiculous. Around 170 quests that all run out by lvl40, and they REALLY stop giving any serious xp at lvl 27-ish, because there's just a couple of quests per level. There's no real merit xp-wise from organizing boss raids atm, you'd be better off killing 3 mobs solo than go in a group and kill a boss. both time- and mana/hp/arrows/repairs-wise.

Right now, all I can do is kill the SAME 2 or 3 mobs till my fingers hurt, and then do it some more. Even levelling up for me is not fun anymore, because there's nothing to do, other than KEEP LEVELING. I used to get excited about new skills etc for every new level, but they are USELESS now since the lag forbids me from playing in PvP entirely.

If *anyone* from NGD actually reads any of this stuff here, well, all I have to say is that I am getting more and more disappointed since this issue has been there since day 1. I don't think it's gonna be fixed anytime soon, which will only lead to a lot more players quitting. Hope you guys have a back-up plan, cause the way things are going right now, I don't see much future in this game, despite of it having great potential.

PS: Please, ffs, no "hey i got no lag" responses. Congratulations, you belong to the lucky 2%. I just don't care anymore. What I'd really like to hear is NGD's plans for the future, what the real problem is and how they intend to fix it, instead of keeping us in the dark about it and just toss a "we're working on it" every now and then.

Regnum_Online · 01-29-2008, 09:18 PM

cmon, NGD is doing the best they can and in my opinion theyre doing great

Miraculix · 01-29-2008, 09:23 PM

I just tried turning every setting in the graphics to the lowest value possible. I've got really nice fps now, 50% cpu usage instead of 100%, but of course, the insta-freeze is still there.

Also, I have noticed this on $mtr 212.214.41.165

Code:

                             My traceroute  [v0.72]
druid (0.0.0.0)                                        Tue Jan 29 22:23:47 2008
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. fritz.fon.box                     0.0%    98    0.4   0.5   0.3   2.8   0.4
 2. ath-lns-7-ppp.edudsl.gr           0.0%    98   36.5  55.4  29.3 671.5  79.0
 3. ath-3750-1-grnet.edudsl.gr        1.0%    98   30.2  40.8  30.2  66.1   5.4
 4. grnetRouter.L1.edudsl.athens3.ac  2.1%    97   35.1  42.3  31.7 100.3   8.7
 5. grnet.rt1.ath.gr.geant2.net      19.6%    97   34.9  43.4  30.4 116.2  13.4
 6. so-7-0-0:0.rt1.mil.it.geant2.net  0.0%    97  145.1  77.5  62.3 235.5  22.8
 7. so-7-1.car2.Milan1.Level3.net     0.0%    97   68.0  80.5  63.5 269.7  34.1
 8. ae-4-4.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.ne  0.0%    97   80.9  85.1  72.1 102.0   5.9
 9. ae-22-56.car2.Frankfurt1.Level3.  0.0%    97   75.1  86.6  73.9 312.1  28.8
10. TDC-SOLUTIO.car2.Frankfurt1.Leve  0.0%    97   93.1  80.8  67.1 100.6   4.3
11. pos0-1-0-1.2488M.albnqh2.ip.tele  0.0%    97  107.2 110.2 101.7 145.0   5.6
12. te0-2-0-0.10G.albnqh1.ip.tele.dk  0.0%    97  106.4 110.2 101.0 129.4   4.7
13. te1-4.bgt-p2.mmx.se.sn.net        0.0%    97  104.2 110.7 100.5 175.8  10.5
14. tge2-1.krs2-p2.mmx.se.sn.net      0.0%    97  104.4 109.5 100.2 173.1   7.6
15. 88.131.143.135                    0.0%    97  102.6 111.7  98.9 290.0  25.9
16. tge1-3.cty-pe3.kid.se.sn.net      0.0%    97   98.8 110.4  98.8 247.2  14.7
17. tge1-3.cty-pe2.kmn.se.sn.net      0.0%    97  100.2 111.6 100.2 199.2  13.3
18. tge1-3.cty-pe3.kmn.se.sn.net      0.0%    97   99.3 110.2  99.3 133.5   5.5
19. tge1-3.cty-pe1.rby.se.sn.net      0.0%    97   97.9 114.1  97.9 266.3  26.3
20. tge1-3.cty-pe2.rby.se.sn.net      0.0%    97  282.6 114.0 100.1 282.6  22.2
21. tge1-3.gba-pe2.klk.se.sn.net      0.0%    97  166.8 114.4 100.1 330.8  33.9
22. ???
23. 212.214.41.165                   12.4%    97  100.5 108.5 100.5 123.8   3.8

Is my freeze related to the mysterious router before the regnum server that was mentioned here?

Please, please, I do want to play. I just can't.

GIGO305 · 01-29-2008, 09:29 PM

i basicly noticed that we have been having 700 users frikuently online in the Ra international servel wich is equivalent to the 500 in muspel and 200 in egfiem(something like this srry dnt know) german servers so im thinking Ra needs a twin also so the number of ppl will split and there will be less lag

misaccc · 01-29-2008, 09:42 PM

agreed the lag is horrible...but im hoping surak will find a solution soon

Miraculix · 01-29-2008, 09:47 PM

I don't think my problem is the average lag problem. Im TOTALLY freezing, and un-freeze only when everyone has left the screen. That's why I posted my mtr output to the regnum server. There seems to be a problem at the last hop before the regnum server, it could be the cause of my freeze. niclaim said they'll check it, I wonder what ever happened?

spartan27583 · 01-29-2008, 09:59 PM

Not only is the lag terrible, but I have noticed a significant increase in the number of crashes I, and others have experienced. I remember, back when I first played this game, there was very little lag and I almost never crashed. Nowadays, there is lag almost everywhere I go (don't get me started on fort wars

)and I crash at least 4 times every day. As a result, I can't go to the warzone as often as I like, which means I am stuck leveling...
NGD please...stop the lag and reduce the number of crashes.

PongPing · 01-30-2008, 01:23 AM

It's true that since the last update, the game crashes loads for many people.

The lag is caused by the large amount of packet loss people get from the game server (it might not be the the only factor, but it's significant enough to explain it). There was a thread in technical support about it (which I see you've found already). However in your case, you're also getting a huge (19.6%) amount of loss from another source, step 5 in your route, which may explain your extreme lag.

As for NDG doing something about it, it's clear that their hardware is inadequate, and I don't have any confidence at all in them fixing it, or the other dozens of bugs in the game which is why I'm not playing it anymore, for the moment.

Miraculix · 01-30-2008, 02:14 AM

well I had this much packet loss in that hop pretty much since I started the game, but I didnt always have the lag-freeze. anyway, I too am starting to lose faith about getting anything properly fixed.

makarios68 · 01-30-2008, 04:03 AM

Some days i die more because of lag, freezes and crashes than because the enemy caught me.

It's like having another enemy, only more deadly than the other two.

01-29-2008, 07:57 PM	#1
Miraculix Count Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Infinite Improbability Drive Posts: 1,287	The.Frigging.Lag A-G-A-I-N Okey I'm on a very fragile nerve state at the moment. This game is just UNPLAYABLE. Whenever a couple of players from other realms appear, BOOM, insta-freeze. Lag goes up to 200 SECONDS. This happened to me before, but was fixed at some point ("fixed"... only got 10-20 seconds lag) and the result was the same. I ended up unfreezing after everyone left my screen, and of course, dead. The only thing I can do now in the game is level, level, level, which is tremendously boring, because of course, the PvE aspect of the game is ridiculous. Around 170 quests that all run out by lvl40, and they REALLY stop giving any serious xp at lvl 27-ish, because there's just a couple of quests per level. There's no real merit xp-wise from organizing boss raids atm, you'd be better off killing 3 mobs solo than go in a group and kill a boss. both time- and mana/hp/arrows/repairs-wise. Right now, all I can do is kill the SAME 2 or 3 mobs till my fingers hurt, and then do it some more. Even levelling up for me is not fun anymore, because there's nothing to do, other than KEEP LEVELING. I used to get excited about new skills etc for every new level, but they are USELESS now since the lag forbids me from playing in PvP entirely. If anyone from NGD actually reads any of this stuff here, well, all I have to say is that I am getting more and more disappointed since this issue has been there since day 1. I don't think it's gonna be fixed anytime soon, which will only lead to a lot more players quitting. Hope you guys have a back-up plan, cause the way things are going right now, I don't see much future in this game, despite of it having great potential. PS: Please, ffs, no "hey i got no lag" responses. Congratulations, you belong to the lucky 2%. I just don't care anymore. What I'd really like to hear is NGD's plans for the future, what the real problem is and how they intend to fix it, instead of keeping us in the dark about it and just toss a "we're working on it" every now and then. __________________ Hit me, nail me, make me God. Panoramix :: Half Elf Hunter ## Miraculix :: Half Elf Marksman ## Aspirinix :: Wood Elf Conjurer Syrtis :: Horus :: Antartes

01-29-2008, 09:29 PM	#4
GIGO305 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: with ur mom Posts: 939	new server i basicly noticed that we have been having 700 users frikuently online in the Ra international servel wich is equivalent to the 500 in muspel and 200 in egfiem(something like this srry dnt know) german servers so im thinking Ra needs a twin also so the number of ppl will split and there will be less lag

01-29-2008, 09:47 PM	#6
Miraculix Count Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Infinite Improbability Drive Posts: 1,287	I don't think my problem is the average lag problem. Im TOTALLY freezing, and un-freeze only when everyone has left the screen. That's why I posted my mtr output to the regnum server. There seems to be a problem at the last hop before the regnum server, it could be the cause of my freeze. niclaim said they'll check it, I wonder what ever happened? __________________ Hit me, nail me, make me God. Panoramix :: Half Elf Hunter ## Miraculix :: Half Elf Marksman ## Aspirinix :: Wood Elf Conjurer Syrtis :: Horus :: Antartes

01-29-2008, 09:59 PM	#7
spartan27583 Apprentice Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In argentina, stalking Surak :p Posts: 69	Not only is the lag terrible, but I have noticed a significant increase in the number of crashes I, and others have experienced. I remember, back when I first played this game, there was very little lag and I almost never crashed. Nowadays, there is lag almost everywhere I go (don't get me started on fort wars )and I crash at least 4 times every day. As a result, I can't go to the warzone as often as I like, which means I am stuck leveling... NGD please...stop the lag and reduce the number of crashes. __________________ The Order of Ironfist The Order Of Ironfist Forums: http://orderofironfist.proboards49.com/ Sparticus lvl 50 Wood Elf Hunter - Tokahashi lvl 42 Wood Elf Conjurer - Tsubaki lvl 38 Half-elf Marksmen SEMI-RETIRED NGD remove the fatigue

01-30-2008, 01:23 AM	#8
PongPing Pledge Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 8	It's true that since the last update, the game crashes loads for many people. The lag is caused by the large amount of packet loss people get from the game server (it might not be the the only factor, but it's significant enough to explain it). There was a thread in technical support about it (which I see you've found already). However in your case, you're also getting a huge (19.6%) amount of loss from another source, step 5 in your route, which may explain your extreme lag. As for NDG doing something about it, it's clear that their hardware is inadequate, and I don't have any confidence at all in them fixing it, or the other dozens of bugs in the game which is why I'm not playing it anymore, for the moment. Last edited by PongPing; 01-30-2008 at 02:12 AM.

01-29-2008, 09:18 PM	#2
Regnum_Online Initiate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 171	cmon, NGD is doing the best they can and in my opinion theyre doing great

01-29-2008, 09:42 PM	#5
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	agreed the lag is horrible...but im hoping surak will find a solution soon

01-30-2008, 02:14 AM	#9
Miraculix Count Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Infinite Improbability Drive Posts: 1,287	well I had this much packet loss in that hop pretty much since I started the game, but I didnt always have the lag-freeze. anyway, I too am starting to lose faith about getting anything properly fixed. __________________ Hit me, nail me, make me God. Panoramix :: Half Elf Hunter ## Miraculix :: Half Elf Marksman ## Aspirinix :: Wood Elf Conjurer Syrtis :: Horus :: Antartes

01-30-2008, 04:03 AM	#10
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	Some days i die more because of lag, freezes and crashes than because the enemy caught me. It's like having another enemy, only more deadly than the other two.