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Old 08-21-2010, 08:05 PM   #1
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well, just look it up :P http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/ranki...12&world=horus
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Old 08-21-2010, 08:18 PM   #2
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Ratio 1 1 1... cool.
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Old 08-21-2010, 08:38 PM   #3
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Perfect balance?! Unpossible!!!

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Old 08-21-2010, 11:13 PM   #6
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I must say, it's nice to see that the goats have become more of a force in Horus.
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Old 08-22-2010, 02:23 PM   #7
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I too have noticed that the realms on Horus have been balanced for the first time I've ever seen, ever since they took away realm chat in the war zone.

What's baffling is why this happened. It literally seemed to happen overnight. Within a week of NGD removing realm chat from the war zone, suddenly Alsius was holding its own, and the kill ratio gap between all three realms (even though Ignis seems to have the lowest population right now) has slowly narrowed to basically nil (on average).

I was hoping this would happen, but I really want to understand why it happened.

NGD, do you have any data that explains this? Did the populations instantly shift somehow? Are more Alsians active in the WZ since realm chat was taken away from the WZ?
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Those numbers don't tell the entire truth unfortunately. IMO realm balance was never the issue, its always been TIMEZONE balance that needs to be fixed. Sure all 3 realms have close to equal number of Kills and Deaths, but this doesn't mean much. All this means is that for all the farming realm A does during timezone A, realm A gets farmed just as much during timezone B.

What we really need to see is the numbers per HOUR not per day. I'm sure if we got those it would be extremely lopsided.

Sure, its great to see everyone having the same kills/deaths over a 1 month period but we're far from the point where we can say everyone's having fun.
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Old 08-22-2010, 04:43 PM   #9
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...What we really need to see is the numbers per HOUR not per day. I'm sure if we got those it would be extremely lopsided...
I would love to see hourly numbers as well. Probably the closest we have is the hourly fort capture numbers from http://rostatus.heroku.com/stats/horus

Fort captures is a weak approximation for RPs exchanged, which is itself an approximation (but I'd guess a stronger one) for 'fun had', but I think it was Donald Rumsfeld who said "You capture a fort with the hunters you have, not with the barbs you wish you had." or something like that.

One thing I noticed about the graph is that it looks pretty much like Alsius and Ignis just swapped places compared to what it looked like several months ago. Then, you could count on two thumbs the number of hours where Alsius had more captures than either Ignis or Syrtis, now, you don't even need two thumbs for Ignis.

Second, the graphs seem pretty much in sync. When Ignis was in its heyday, their graph was pretty clearly shifted to the right compared to the Syrtis/Alsius graphs. Now, the graph peaks (in position, not in height) are pretty much aligned at about the same time (with a few outliers) - Ignis has shifted its peak times to align with Syrtis/Alsius'. (Or all the California Iggies left. )

So I think it's a combination. There are timezones when Syrtis needs to boost its numbers, and timezones when Alsius does, (timezone balance) but Ignis needs a boost across pretty much all timezones. (realm balance)

I was worried that we would see three separate graphs, with widely separated peaks - this would be really hard to balance, but it looks like the popular times are pretty similar for all realms.

I'm not really sure what we can do about it, as players, except the obvious sort of things: if you're trying to get your friends to play, encourage them to pick your own realm if they're going to be playing in a low time, or to pick Ignis (or the understaffed realm-du-jour) if they're going to be on in your peak hours.
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Old 08-22-2010, 05:19 PM   #10
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lets not get this into a discussion, i just wanted to point out kill/death over a month was 1, and ignis has the numbers, they showed after alsius put malus xp, they got a nice force on then, but they dont have to will/possiblity to play regulary.
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