Accused Of Cheating

Inkster · 08-31-2007, 12:40 AM

first of all i would like you all to read this thread:

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ead.php?t=9920

Now please look at the following screen shot to read the comments in the chat box:

Deawomanwalking is better known as twinkle. This evening we had a problem. She was falsely accused of using a speed cheat (if such thing does exist) to gain advantage in the war zone.

In actual fact the speed the game runs at is an absolute nightmare for her to play as she ends up not able to go into buildings nor go to certain parts of the realm due to the death by water.

An admin was following her around on Sunday last for a while and he could see this problem.

We have tried everything we can to resolve this problem in order for twinkle to play and enjoy her game but to no avail

AS FOR CHEATING....... we do not even agree with the xp booster you can pay for as you have not really earnt the xp you get.

For those of you who were present at the time of the screen shot please take the following advice...

CLOSE MOUTH...ENGAGE BRAIN

All you have done is ruin a game two people really enjoyed and i hope you are all proud of yourselves

Froste · 08-31-2007, 01:21 AM

I'm sorry you were accused of cheating like that, but from their perspective - they see someone moving ultra-fast when they themselves can't do it, people let emotions override reason, I would prolly accuse you of cheating too had you been in ignis, and I saw you moving fast. But clearly it's not so I would be wrong (:

I hope you can resolve your problem and have fun killing people with a regular speed in warzone (:

adrianpf · 08-31-2007, 01:43 AM

I was one of the players that said those things, as it can be seen in the screenshot...

First: When I told her "cheater!" it was a mock... then I just followed her to tell her: "you will be banned", just for a warning, not for accusing her. See, then I said "logoff", just for her not to be seen doing that, she may be banned. I didn't know she had this problem.

Second: Speed hack exists. It's a program that accelerates programs speeds, and some months ago, it has been used and exploited.

Third: I am truly sorry if you were disappointed by us, I just wanted to protect you and Alsius, for her not to be seen doing that. If other realms people saw this, they would make a thread accusing her and Alsius of being cheaters, and the rest, you know.

So, my apologies if you were haressed with this attitude, but it's a normal behaviour when something like this happens. I just wanted you to logoff not to be seen, sorry!

DaggerSpell · 08-31-2007, 01:46 AM

I have had this problem a few times, and it does not seem to be video card related, more of a comb of lag from the server as well as my connection. It did not make it unplayable but i have died a few times because of it. I would like to say sorry for the way you were treated by people that did not know what was going on. But be proud in the fact that you as a mage can out run everyone

Any way anytime you want to play the guys a PERL welcome you and Inkster. We are mostly computer programmers so we understand how these "issues" can happen and might be able to debug it some more for the admins to fix. Sorry that you were treated this way in the Alsius Realm and hope you return to the game.

magnet · 08-31-2007, 05:25 AM

Did she try to increase the resolution? If the game runs so fast, it should make it slower to have a better resolution, and it's a waste right now... I don't know how anyone can play in 800x600; I play at 1680x1050 and it's still not enough

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DuoMaxwell · 08-31-2007, 07:20 AM

What exactly is the problem? Insanely powerful CPU, like a C2D w/ 4Mb L2 cache OCed to around 3.5Ghz or more combined with a slow graphics card and a satalite internet line?

Cause thats a trifecta of things that can possibly mess things up. the CPU is an unlikely one not just cause it'd have to be a decently high end model that was then equiped with excelent cooling and OCed, but also cause I don't think I've seen any modern era games do like the old games do when run on more modern hardware, think like running the DOS verson of Megaman on a P4, it'll run at like 200x normal speed lol.

The video card, the most common cause of client side lag I've seen while asking around in game and in the forums, something as good as an nvidia 6600GT or faster is recomended no matter what the rest of your hardware may be.

Lastly, the bane of any FPS gamer, line lag, belive it or not, broadband satalite internet is slower then plain ole slow ass dialup. How and why you ask? Latency, do a ping to a site thats got great lines and you'll see how many milisecconds it takes for you to send a single packet of data to them and recive a reply. It doesn't matter that you have a 100Mbps bandwidth line when it takes forever to get that ping for every packet of data.

This is why I'd take a 1Mbps/1Mbps FTTH line over a 5/1 line over copper.

latency of the line is why if you play an fps game you will see someone with a high ping seem to teleport around. His position data is being processed much after yours so while you may have a perfect headshot set up on him if he moves he can be right on top of you by the time the server figures it out and sends your comp his current position for it to render it.

Angelwinged_Devil · 08-31-2007, 08:05 AM

-.-' "you are giving our realm a bad name" that's a lame accusition. As said so many times before, only an idiot blames a whole realm for the actions of one.

Give twinkle my blessings and let her twinkle like a star ^^

octopus · 08-31-2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkster

Deawomanwalking is better known as twinkle. This evening we had a problem. She was falsely accused of using a speed cheat (if such thing does exist) to gain advantage in the war zone.

Speed cheats have been a problem in a number of MMORPG, including Regnum a few months ago, according to someone else's post. Of course when people see one person running around twice as fast as everyone else, they will assume you are cheating. You should not be so sensitive when people ask you to stop running super-fast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkster

AS FOR CHEATING....... we do not even agree with the xp booster you can pay for as you have not really earnt the xp you get.

Keep in mind that people that use XP boosters are the people who gave money to the developers of Regnum, supporting the game for everyone else. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the players who have contributed financially to NGD, so that everyone else can continue to play for free. Without those people that you call "cheaters" for paying for XP boosters, there would be no Regnum for you to play.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkster

For those of you who were present at the time of the screen shot please take the following advice...

CLOSE MOUTH...ENGAGE BRAIN

No, Inkster, the people who were present in that screenshot were trying to keep Twinkle from getting banned for doing what appeared to be a speed hack.

NightTwix · 08-31-2007, 06:26 PM

ok, on one hand i can see your frustration on that issue. You dont really want to play that way, but you are forced to.

on the other hand it doesnt really matter if its intentionally cheating or a bug or a misconfiguration or whatever.
You cant run around in the warzone like that!

magnet · 08-31-2007, 06:40 PM

And see the goodness coming out of this; just earlier after killing Inkster, we decided to leave the poor Twinkle (barely) alive, but the sefirot magot newb came out of nowhere and finished her... Sorry for that, we told him to go to hell but my spanish isn't that good

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08-31-2007, 12:40 AM	#1
Inkster Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arse firmly glued to Ra Posts: 1,042	Accused Of Cheating first of all i would like you all to read this thread: http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ead.php?t=9920 Now please look at the following screen shot to read the comments in the chat box: Deawomanwalking is better known as twinkle. This evening we had a problem. She was falsely accused of using a speed cheat (if such thing does exist) to gain advantage in the war zone. In actual fact the speed the game runs at is an absolute nightmare for her to play as she ends up not able to go into buildings nor go to certain parts of the realm due to the death by water. An admin was following her around on Sunday last for a while and he could see this problem. We have tried everything we can to resolve this problem in order for twinkle to play and enjoy her game but to no avail AS FOR CHEATING....... we do not even agree with the xp booster you can pay for as you have not really earnt the xp you get. For those of you who were present at the time of the screen shot please take the following advice... CLOSE MOUTH...ENGAGE BRAIN All you have done is ruin a game two people really enjoyed and i hope you are all proud of yourselves

08-31-2007, 01:21 AM	#2
Froste Baron Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Svea Rike Posts: 814	I'm sorry you were accused of cheating like that, but from their perspective - they see someone moving ultra-fast when they themselves can't do it, people let emotions override reason, I would prolly accuse you of cheating too had you been in ignis, and I saw you moving fast. But clearly it's not so I would be wrong (: I hope you can resolve your problem and have fun killing people with a regular speed in warzone (: __________________ *Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines...*

08-31-2007, 01:43 AM	#3
adrianpf Count Join Date: May 2007 Location: Far away, across the fields... Posts: 1,331	I was one of the players that said those things, as it can be seen in the screenshot... First: When I told her "cheater!" it was a mock... then I just followed her to tell her: "you will be banned", just for a warning, not for accusing her. See, then I said "logoff", just for her not to be seen doing that, she may be banned. I didn't know she had this problem. Second: Speed hack exists. It's a program that accelerates programs speeds, and some months ago, it has been used and exploited. Third: I am truly sorry if you were disappointed by us, I just wanted to protect you and Alsius, for her not to be seen doing that. If other realms people saw this, they would make a thread accusing her and Alsius of being cheaters, and the rest, you know. So, my apologies if you were haressed with this attitude, but it's a normal behaviour when something like this happens. I just wanted you to logoff not to be seen, sorry! __________________ <Krishna> <Krieger><Avalancha de Disney >

08-31-2007, 01:46 AM	#4
DaggerSpell Pledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27	I have had this problem a few times, and it does not seem to be video card related, more of a comb of lag from the server as well as my connection. It did not make it unplayable but i have died a few times because of it. I would like to say sorry for the way you were treated by people that did not know what was going on. But be proud in the fact that you as a mage can out run everyone Any way anytime you want to play the guys a PERL welcome you and Inkster. We are mostly computer programmers so we understand how these "issues" can happen and might be able to debug it some more for the admins to fix. Sorry that you were treated this way in the Alsius Realm and hope you return to the game. __________________ Thesis (Warlock) Alsius lvl 50 - La Fragua -

08-31-2007, 07:20 AM	#6
DuoMaxwell Master Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: A place worse then hell Posts: 332	What exactly is the problem? Insanely powerful CPU, like a C2D w/ 4Mb L2 cache OCed to around 3.5Ghz or more combined with a slow graphics card and a satalite internet line? Cause thats a trifecta of things that can possibly mess things up. the CPU is an unlikely one not just cause it'd have to be a decently high end model that was then equiped with excelent cooling and OCed, but also cause I don't think I've seen any modern era games do like the old games do when run on more modern hardware, think like running the DOS verson of Megaman on a P4, it'll run at like 200x normal speed lol. The video card, the most common cause of client side lag I've seen while asking around in game and in the forums, something as good as an nvidia 6600GT or faster is recomended no matter what the rest of your hardware may be. Lastly, the bane of any FPS gamer, line lag, belive it or not, broadband satalite internet is slower then plain ole slow ass dialup. How and why you ask? Latency, do a ping to a site thats got great lines and you'll see how many milisecconds it takes for you to send a single packet of data to them and recive a reply. It doesn't matter that you have a 100Mbps bandwidth line when it takes forever to get that ping for every packet of data. This is why I'd take a 1Mbps/1Mbps FTTH line over a 5/1 line over copper. latency of the line is why if you play an fps game you will see someone with a high ping seem to teleport around. His position data is being processed much after yours so while you may have a perfect headshot set up on him if he moves he can be right on top of you by the time the server figures it out and sends your comp his current position for it to render it. __________________ My Chars: Duo Maxwell, Knight, Ignis. Yo Momma, Conjurer, Ignis. Izana, Hunter, Ignis Bank Of Duo, Warrior, used as gear storage only cause we have no banks...

08-31-2007, 05:25 AM	#5
magnet Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: France Posts: 1,416	Did she try to increase the resolution? If the game runs so fast, it should make it slower to have a better resolution, and it's a waste right now... I don't know how anyone can play in 800x600; I play at 1680x1050 and it's still not enough .

08-31-2007, 08:05 AM	#7
Angelwinged_Devil Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under your skin Posts: 1337 Posts: 2,490	-.-' "you are giving our realm a bad name" that's a lame accusition. As said so many times before, only an idiot blames a whole realm for the actions of one. Give twinkle my blessings and let her twinkle like a star ^^

08-31-2007, 06:26 PM	#9
NightTwix Count Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 1,655	ok, on one hand i can see your frustration on that issue. You dont really want to play that way, but you are forced to. on the other hand it doesnt really matter if its intentionally cheating or a bug or a misconfiguration or whatever. You cant run around in the warzone like that!

08-31-2007, 06:40 PM	#10
magnet Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: France Posts: 1,416	And see the goodness coming out of this; just earlier after killing Inkster, we decided to leave the poor Twinkle (barely) alive, but the sefirot magot newb came out of nowhere and finished her... Sorry for that, we told him to go to hell but my spanish isn't that good .

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