Knight questions

Hydroxidee · 08-04-2008, 11:19 AM

Army of One or Heroic Presence? (both at level 5)

Does Heroic Presence count for the caster knight? or is it like defflecting barrier?

misaccc · 08-04-2008, 11:50 AM

Well it counts but it isnt close to the effect of AoO....Then again its an aura while AoO is a self buff...id suggest that you dont put points in them tho...better precise and pasive blocks

DkySven · 08-04-2008, 12:01 PM

AoO is damage resistance, so it's good against high damage and has almost no effect at low damage, heroic presence gives +100% protection(=armor points), so it's bad against high damage, but good against low damage. Heroic is also an aura.

It depends on the weapon your opponent(s) use(is it a slow or a fast weapon?) which spell has the most effect.

CumeriTarenes · 08-04-2008, 12:10 PM

AoO is as good vs high damage as vs low damage. It does not matter if a 10 damage hit is reduced to 2 or if a 1000 damage hit is reduced to 200.

Other it is with heroic presence. It just adds armor points. But armor points have almost no impact when hit by high damage hit because it reduces a fixed amount of damage and not a % like AoO is doing.

Alberigh · 08-04-2008, 01:48 PM

i suggest that you use heroic presence 5 good while u and ur ally are destroying the fort's door and give u a small defense for 60 seconds without wasting points upgrading a whole discipline to 19 just for 1 skill , and as misacc said blocks

thats all we got too sad

Akooo · 08-04-2008, 02:41 PM

Wouldn't raise both too as Red already said. There are to many spells around making AoO useless (Ethereal, Soulkeeper, Tear/Break Apart) so its only of use against other mele classes.

Valorius · 08-04-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

Other it is with heroic presence. It just adds armor points. But armor points have almost no impact when hit by high damage hit because it reduces a fixed amount of damage and not a % like AoO is doing.

I wouldn't say that at all. Doubling your armor points will slash several hundred points of damage from high damage spells.

The higher your lvl, the better effect you'll get from heroic presence or a spell like evasive tactics for archers, becuase your base armor lvl will be higher.

CumeriTarenes · 08-04-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Valorius

I wouldn't say that at all. Doubling your armor points will slash several hundred points of damage from high damage spells.

well, this sreenshoots show how much armor points actually help:

southcross on lvl 50 knight with 2311 armor points: 2994 dmg
http://regnum-forum.gamigo.de/attach...9&d=1215539210

southcross on lvl 50 knight with 0 armor points: 3195 dmg
http://regnum-forum.gamigo.de/attach...0&d=1215539220

There is a rumor that all armor points above 1000 are useless becaue they don't have any or only very little impact on damage reduction. But this needs further testing I think.

Valorius · 08-04-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by misaccc

Well it counts but it isnt close to the effect of AoO....Then again its an aura while AoO is a self buff...id suggest that you dont put points in them tho...better precise and pasive blocks

What misaccc said.

Until NGD gets around to fixing them the blocking skills are blatantly overpowered.

misaccc · 08-05-2008, 07:02 AM

I think you forgot acrobatic valorius. And no blocks are not overpowered... they are... necesary untill knights dont get some other defence...

08-04-2008, 11:19 AM	#1
Hydroxidee Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 161	Knight questions Army of One or Heroic Presence? (both at level 5) Does Heroic Presence count for the caster knight? or is it like defflecting barrier?

08-04-2008, 12:01 PM	#3
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	AoO is damage resistance, so it's good against high damage and has almost no effect at low damage, heroic presence gives +100% protection(=armor points), so it's bad against high damage, but good against low damage. Heroic is also an aura. It depends on the weapon your opponent(s) use(is it a slow or a fast weapon?) which spell has the most effect. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

08-04-2008, 12:10 PM	#4
CumeriTarenes Baron Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 702	AoO is as good vs high damage as vs low damage. It does not matter if a 10 damage hit is reduced to 2 or if a 1000 damage hit is reduced to 200. Other it is with heroic presence. It just adds armor points. But armor points have almost no impact when hit by high damage hit because it reduces a fixed amount of damage and not a % like AoO is doing. __________________ dwarfen sniper pts Cumeri Tarenes and Hunti

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08-04-2008, 11:50 AM	#2
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	Well it counts but it isnt close to the effect of AoO....Then again its an aura while AoO is a self buff...id suggest that you dont put points in them tho...better precise and pasive blocks

08-04-2008, 01:48 PM	#5
Alberigh Secondary account Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 23	i suggest that you use heroic presence 5 good while u and ur ally are destroying the fort's door and give u a small defense for 60 seconds without wasting points upgrading a whole discipline to 19 just for 1 skill , and as misacc said blocks thats all we got too sad

08-04-2008, 02:41 PM	#6
Akooo Initiate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 127	Wouldn't raise both too as Red already said. There are to many spells around making AoO useless (Ethereal, Soulkeeper, Tear/Break Apart) so its only of use against other mele classes.

08-05-2008, 07:02 AM	#10
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	I think you forgot acrobatic valorius. And no blocks are not overpowered... they are... necesary untill knights dont get some other defence...