Camping In Fort Towers

[Saryad]

This is directed at ignis especially Efrendi and his nightly crew.
Stop camping in the top of the tower at forts, its really really annoying, and really cowardly. Sure i like to win as much as the next man, but at least im a bit of a sportsman.
FFS stop being pussies and come down and fight.

[VandaMan]

Really?

[Mattdoesrock]

The resulting cluster fuck is annoying, and pisses me off too... (I should not be allowed on IRC when warring / raging.)

But to be fair, it's valid tactic none the less.

[Wes_]

Originally Posted by Saryad

This is directed at ignis especially Efrendi and his nightly crew.
Stop camping in the top of the tower at forts, its really really annoying, and really cowardly. Sure i like to win as much as the next man, but at least im a bit of a sportsman.
FFS stop being pussies and come down and fight.

Google Translated this from Goat -> English:

Stop making the fights interesting and longer lasting. When the door drops you're obligated to bend over and give your enemy rps. I need my quest! Wah wah wah. Back to grinding I go.

Btw, this is my crew Ef's just in it

[terekon]

It is a useful tactic. One that we choose to exercise when we dont want that fight to end. I know you guys have grinding to get back to, but come on.

If you want us out how about you stop raging, stop whining on the forums and figure it out.

See you in the tower.

[_Seinvan]

Saryaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

Tower fucks are annoying and crowded, yes, but hopefully with the new forts (which are coming when..?) they'll be a little more interesting

[aricosity_]

Perfectly viable tactic, You know you're doing something right when people bitch.

[Kitsuni]

You guys are mistaken, believing that the OP is talking about normal fort wars where you go to the tower at the end. This is not what Efrendi's group does. Instead, they take the fort, then immediately run to the tower, even against equal numbers or a bunch of noobs. After the fort is captured, they then kill people that try to go up to the tower, sometimes for 15-30 minutes at a time. When you finally manage to kill them, they come back five minutes later and do it again, rinse repeat, all night long. Then they go to Herb and do the same thing. What people in this thread are upset about isn't fort tower wars, those are fine, because usually you can kill the people in the tower after retaking the fort, with some effort. The issue with Efrendi's group is that they don't even bother to give a fort war, even against equal numbers, they always just play this easy "tower gank" game, and because of this Alsius has had very little actual war in the last week from Ignis. Sometimes they come down with all of their barbs in UM and recapture the fort too, making it a never-ending door-killing, tower-ganking game. The result is perhaps the most unpleasant events that I've ever had the displeasure of participating in.

I don't know if you've ever tried to assault a tower with equal or less numbers, but unless you have some kind of significant advantage, you are just going to get destroyed one by one over and over and over again. The tower is simply too hard to select or attack in (not facing errors), when you are unable to zerg the opponent, and most of Efrendi's group is barbs, usually facing mostly archers, making the battles even more one-sided and sometimes just outright impossible. I'm just not a big fan of this new type of farming, especially not when your enemy doesn't outnumber you. To me it just shows poor sportsmanship, even if it is a valid tactic. We've been begging for war for the last week... and what do we get? Five barbs and a knight camping Agg tower all night long, and maybe a Syrtis zerg at Agg during the peak ours, and nothing else. It seriously sucks.

I believe in being aggressive and unfair to your enemies when possible... but there should be a limit. All players are people, and if you stress players out too much, robbing them of any possible fun they could have, they will log off, and eventually quit. And that's Alsius in a bottle.

[Wes_]

Originally Posted by Kitsunie

You guys are mistaken, believing that the OP is talking about normal fort wars where you go to the tower at the end. This is not what Efrendi's group does. Instead, they take the fort, then immediately run to the tower, even against equal numbers or a bunch of noobs. After the fort is captured, they then kill people that try to go up to the tower, sometimes for 15-30 minutes at a time. When you finally manage to kill them, they come back five minutes later and do it again, rinse repeat, all night long. Then they go to Herb and do the same thing. What people in this thread are upset about isn't fort tower wars, those are fine, because usually you can kill the people in the tower after retaking the fort, with some effort. The issue with Efrendi's group is that they don't even bother to give a fort war, even against equal numbers, they always just play this easy "tower gank" game, and because of this Alsius has had very little actual war in the last week from Ignis. Sometimes they come down with all of their barbs in UM and recapture the fort too, making it a never-ending door-killing, tower-ganking game. The result is perhaps the most unpleasant events that I've ever had the displeasure of participating in.

I don't know if you've ever tried to assault a tower with equal or less numbers, but unless you have some kind of significant advantage, you are just going to get destroyed one by one over and over and over again. The tower is simply too hard to select or attack in (not facing errors), when you are unable to zerg the opponent, and most of Efrendi's group is barbs, usually facing mostly archers, making the battles even more one-sided and sometimes just outright impossible. I'm just not a big fan of this new type of farming, especially not when your enemy doesn't outnumber you. To me it just shows poor sportsmanship, even if it is a valid tactic. We've been begging for war for the last week... and what do we get? Five barbs and a knight camping Agg tower all night long, and maybe a Syrtis zerg at Agg during the peak ours, and nothing else. It seriously sucks.

I believe in being aggressive and unfair to your enemies when possible... but there should be a limit. All players are people, and if you stress players out too much, robbing them of any possible fun they could have, they will log off, and eventually quit. And that's Alsius in a bottle.

So, you have a problem with fighting warriors in a tower...but no problem with your army of archers ranging a fort door? I don't see any sort of unsportsmanlike conduct if the latter isn't also considered unsportsmanlike. You play with the strengths of your own character and the group you're playing with. We found a tactic that works well against Rangenum, and you've used your best tactic against anything...bitching. I guess we'll see what becomes of this battle.

See you in the Warzone.

And ffs, it's MY group, Efrendi is a noob.

[terekon]

Originally Posted by Kitsunie

they always just play this easy "tower gank" game, and because of this Alsius has had very little actual war in the last week from Ignis.

most of Efrendi's group is barbs, usually facing mostly archers, making the battles even more one-sided and sometimes just outright impossible.

And that's Alsius in a bottle.

If alsius has been itching for war all week why havent you made any? We started doing this because no one is warring, just grinding. Go to alsius oc at 10pm. you will see 5 grinders. kill them 20 will come. after hours and hours of no war from alsius. we take aggy, we get zerged by alsius when we have 6-8.

barbs facing mostly archers means dead barbs. stop hiding behind your range and start fighting barbs in their range. If you dont want to do that (who would, i dont) then barbs must find a way to equalize it.

Stop whining and fight. If you want war you know where samal is. If you have forgotten because of how long it been since you've been there the map button is m. stop crying and have fun.

And btw its Wes's crew Efrendi is noob.