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01-05-2012, 09:05 PM | #1 |
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[eww] Awkward test about () damage.
First of all, related test but that one seems straightforward.
Gems in weapons seem to not be affected by spells that scale the weapon damage. Tested with init bow+arrows -> 103 max, 106 with recharged. Added 15 dmg gem into it -> 118 max, 121 with recharged, 121-106 is exactly 15 sooo gems defenitely don't count as weapon damage. Now the other test i tried to see if the dmg in () counts. Nothing really fits anymore. (Wasnt dmg per dex 1.5 for marks? Adding lvl 1 Lightness boosts my damage by 7 so it should fit for "bonus" dex, however there seems some other magic going on for the base dexterity.) Edit: Thanks to Kitsunie who remind me on the actual formula. 20 dex is discarded so its 64*1.5=96 dmg from dex, which fits on that part. Anyone any idea whats wrong there? I was almost certain that () isnt included for scaling as itis defenitely not on armor but the dmg is too high here. Not sure which category fits best for that kind of stuff so i put it here. Feel free to move. Last edited by _Enio_; 01-06-2012 at 04:30 AM. |
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01-06-2012, 04:15 AM | #3 |
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I'm reminded quite forcibly why maths is so excruciatingly tedious and painful, I can empathize with NGD for throwing in the towel on their damage calculations.
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01-06-2012, 11:35 AM | #4 |
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I made some tests.
Bow: 85 - 120 (+20) +17 fire -> Total damage: 122 - 157 Arrows: 48 - 65 +10 fire -> Total damage: 58 - 75 Dexterity 84 -> Total damage: 96 Attack damage: 276 - 328 Wich is 122 + 58 + 96 min damage, 157 + 75 + 96 max damage. Correct. Now with Recharged Arrow(5) Attack damage: 348 - 423 -> Total damage added by RA: 72 - 95 Min damage from Bow and arrows is: 122 + 58 = 180, 40% of 180 is 72. Correct. Max damage from Bow and arrows is: 157 + 75 = 232, 40% of 232 is 92.8. Not correct, there's a difference of +2.2. Now with Specialist(4) Attack damage: 288 - 344 -> Total damage added by Specialist: 12 - 16 Let's research... 12 is 8% of 150. 150 must be: 85 min damage from bow + 17 special bonus from bow + 48 from min arrows damage. For max damage: 120 + 17 + 65 = 202. 8% of 202 is 16.16. It seems correct, but why specialist formula is different from RA one? Specialist doesn't take in calculation special bonus from arrows and (+damage) from bow, while RA does. They both says weapon damage bonus. Now with Specialist(4) and RA(5) Attack damage: 360 - 440 -> So it's 348 - 423 from RA(5) + 12 - 16 from Specialist(4). They don't stack, i guess there's a round up somewhere (440 - 423 = 17 instead of 16). In conclusion... It seems like passive spells don't take in calculation some item bonuses. Also there's +2 damage added by RA(5) to maximum damage but not to minimum damage wich i don't know where it's coming from. I'll make some tests with gems too later. Edit: i made some tests on barb... Overwhelming Strenght, wich is passive, takes into calculations base weapon damage (without (+damage) and without special bonuses) AND damage from gems AND damage from rings and amulet. Berserk takes into calculation base weapon damage and special bonuses on weapon but not (+damage) nor damage from gems AND damage from amulet and rings. Seems like formulas are different for every class, what a mess. :\
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01-06-2012, 12:41 PM | #6 |
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01-06-2012, 01:05 PM | #7 |
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I was wondering if it is a bug or different kind of calculation for NGD.And yeah,it seems they are different for every class...
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01-17-2012, 05:22 PM | #8 | |
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Anyway, so if passive spells dont take in calculation, Specialist/Lightness are for nothing? |
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01-17-2012, 05:36 PM | #9 |
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In what calculation?
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