Balance update: more BUG FIXING

chilko · 09-10-2010, 04:20 PM

UPDATE: Mana Regeneration change.

We've finally understood your concerns with being in and out of combat mode.
To prevent ridiculous control pressing and thus possible reasons for carpal tunnel syndrome

we are taking away control of your mana regeneration
from now on being out of combat mode does not imply any change in mana regeneration.

So, mana regeneration will depend of the following three states:

Under attack: fast
Normal: faster
sitting down: fastest

We will take a decision on auto combat mode switching in a following update

Changes:
Fulminating: reduced damage 10% to 50% from level 1 to 5.

more bug fixing

Modified: Arrow prices have been lowered
New: Ofensive Instance and Defensive Instance now cancel each other
BUG FIX: an error was fixed that made some DOTs to generate less damage
BUG FIX: an error was fixed that made “Ofensive Stance” have a finite duration
BUG FIX: error with arrow level
BUG FIX: reveal does not remove stun
BUG FIX: mass resurrection no longer shows a constant casting
BUG FIX: now Sanctuary dispels buffs after being cast not during casting time
BUG FIX: protect ally now dispels cannot move instead of freeze
BUG FIX: A problems with permanent skiing animations on mobs have been fixed
BUG FIX: zombies that wait below the ground are not longer invisible when entering into visual range
BUG FIX: Imps and zombies cannot be cast at a distance longer than intended. This corrects a bug that made them disappear before their duration ran out
BUG FIX: double arrow sound bug

please post more bug findings here

Klutu · 09-10-2010, 04:26 PM

Nice to see so many bug fixes!

Theres a bug with Freezing Spells - Winter Stroke/Freeze/Time Master ect

When freezes duration is finished it will mess your Movement up - you need to sit or Button mash to fix it.

It's really annoying in combat

mariqri · 09-10-2010, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilko

[*]Modified: Arrow prices have been lowered

finally we were

you from 3 years

NotScias · 09-10-2010, 05:06 PM

Awesome !! (esp for Arrow prices and Sanct, because these are very old issues)

Could you please fix the old and very annoying bug with Resurrection (5) too ?
If someone that is Rezzed(5) casts a buff during the 8 first seconds after Rez, the spell is wasted (no effect) and goes in CD, so either make the cast of buffs impossible or make it break Resurrection dizziness during this period.

Anyways thanks for all these bugfixes !

_Enio_ · 09-10-2010, 05:18 PM

Wohooo

nice!

Will we get a more reliable Unstoppable Madness on lower levels too?

Lekarz · 09-10-2010, 05:34 PM

BUG FIX: now Sanctuary dispels buffs after being cast not during casting time

I love you!

Modified: Arrow prices have been lowered

My marx also

e30G · 09-10-2010, 05:54 PM

Good job! This is shaping up to becoming a very good update indeed!

Barya · 09-10-2010, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Enio_

Will we get a more reliable Unstoppable Madness on lower levels too?

For example, Ao1 is spell working 100% - it always decrease damage, not randomly.

UM unreliable not bcoz of low percentage but bcoz it has percentage at all, with its "strike here" animation and 1/4 duration.
Making it resisting X cc's with 100% like TfB and increase duration ratio is solution. This not making barbarians op in war, and allow barbarian be usable 100% of time, not 1/4 with current duration ratio.

If NGD really afraid, it can be made like "add 1-2 100% resists at 1-2 levels for first CC's" at first time for live testing.

The same with Ao1, it can works for first X hits, and with great duration ratio, allowing proper usage. Or even better, it can soak up to X damage (x4-x10 of HP idk).

_Enio_ · 09-10-2010, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barya

UM unreliable not bcoz of low percentage but bcoz it has percentage at all, with its "strike here" animation and 1/4 duration.
Making it resisting X cc's with 100% like TfB and increase duration ratio is solution. This not making barbarians op in war, and allow barbarian be usable 100% of time, not 1/4 with current duration ratio.

Im not asking for 100% reliability but for the low levels to have 90ish% chance too but different durations on levels.

Thats the design other (beside new PB) reactional spells with 1 or 0 effect work (SoW, Escapist). NGD expressed they agree on that, just asking so they dont miss that by accident since this is a cruical part for tactical use of UM / configuration decisions.

Zas_ · 09-10-2010, 07:57 PM

Various bugs/remarks from Amun tests (hunter centric):

Stalker Surroundings:
- it doesn't give RP to hunter if allies under it kill someone
- nearest allies should be selected first (too random)
- make camoed allies semi-visible (ala Camouflage)
- please reduce speed malus at lower levels (-20%, -25%, -30%, -35%, -40%) so level 1 is one ally camoed but lower speed malus
- new Enemy surveillance, Reveal and new OP barb areas are enough to balance it....

Enemy Surveillance:
- unreadable sometimes too much info, bad style

Camouflage:
- stlll bugged when going out of a fort

Camouflage corpse:
- good support spell
- no one will put 5 points in it ever (new power point system is very restricting to hunters imho).

Dodge:
- +30% evade has no impact with "normal" evade level, only useful in conjunction with new Escapist... (same applies to Cat reflexes)

Spell Elude:
- useless atm, spell resistance bonus is too low even at level 5 to make any difference

Mobility:
- +2% at level 1 -> useless but if one invest 4-5 points in it

Wild Spirit:
- +2% at level 1 -> useless, no significant speed increase but on VERY long way

Finesse:
- mana cost is too high

Repetition Shot:
- please reduce mana cost, since you reduced damages

Dual Shot:
- casting time too long, reduce it a bit

About barbs damages:
- far too high, you'll have to nerf them soon...
- new hunters are born...

Great you fixed many bugs (finally), good work guys !

09-10-2010, 04:20 PM	#1
chilko NGD·Studios Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 892	Balance update: more BUG FIXING UPDATE: Mana Regeneration change. We've finally understood your concerns with being in and out of combat mode. To prevent ridiculous control pressing and thus possible reasons for carpal tunnel syndrome we are taking away control of your mana regeneration from now on being out of combat mode does not imply any change in mana regeneration. So, mana regeneration will depend of the following three states: Under attack: fast Normal: faster sitting down: fastest We will take a decision on auto combat mode switching in a following update Changes: Fulminating: reduced damage 10% to 50% from level 1 to 5. more bug fixing Modified: Arrow prices have been lowered New: Ofensive Instance and Defensive Instance now cancel each other BUG FIX: an error was fixed that made some DOTs to generate less damage BUG FIX: an error was fixed that made “Ofensive Stance” have a finite duration BUG FIX: error with arrow level BUG FIX: reveal does not remove stun BUG FIX: mass resurrection no longer shows a constant casting BUG FIX: now Sanctuary dispels buffs after being cast not during casting time BUG FIX: protect ally now dispels cannot move instead of freeze BUG FIX: A problems with permanent skiing animations on mobs have been fixed BUG FIX: zombies that wait below the ground are not longer invisible when entering into visual range BUG FIX: Imps and zombies cannot be cast at a distance longer than intended. This corrects a bug that made them disappear before their duration ran out BUG FIX: double arrow sound bug please post more bug findings here Last edited by chilko; 09-10-2010 at 07:42 PM.

09-10-2010, 04:26 PM	#2
Klutu Baron Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 714	Nice to see so many bug fixes! Theres a bug with Freezing Spells - Winter Stroke/Freeze/Time Master ect When freezes duration is finished it will mess your Movement up - you need to sit or Button mash to fix it. It's really annoying in combat __________________ Ramsli Klutu

09-10-2010, 05:06 PM	#4
NotScias Baron Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: /dev/null Posts: 766	Awesome !! (esp for Arrow prices and Sanct, because these are very old issues) Could you please fix the old and very annoying bug with Resurrection (5) too ? If someone that is Rezzed(5) casts a buff during the 8 first seconds after Rez, the spell is wasted (no effect) and goes in CD, so either make the cast of buffs impossible or make it break Resurrection dizziness during this period. Anyways thanks for all these bugfixes ! __________________ 天 The other realm awaits... Now playing much better games

09-10-2010, 05:18 PM	#5
_Enio_ Marquis Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,843	Wohooo nice! Will we get a more reliable Unstoppable Madness on lower levels too? __________________ Fix the Marksman subclass: Suggestion

09-10-2010, 05:54 PM	#7
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	Good job! This is shaping up to becoming a very good update indeed! __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

09-10-2010, 05:34 PM	#6
Lekarz Master Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 285	BUG FIX: now Sanctuary dispels buffs after being cast not during casting time I love you! Modified: Arrow prices have been lowered My marx also

09-10-2010, 07:57 PM	#10
Zas_ Count Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Posts: 1,024	Various bugs/remarks from Amun tests (hunter centric): Stalker Surroundings: - it doesn't give RP to hunter if allies under it kill someone - nearest allies should be selected first (too random) - make camoed allies semi-visible (ala Camouflage) - please reduce speed malus at lower levels (-20%, -25%, -30%, -35%, -40%) so level 1 is one ally camoed but lower speed malus - new Enemy surveillance, Reveal and new OP barb areas are enough to balance it.... Enemy Surveillance: - unreadable sometimes too much info, bad style Camouflage: - stlll bugged when going out of a fort Camouflage corpse: - good support spell - no one will put 5 points in it ever (new power point system is very restricting to hunters imho). Dodge: - +30% evade has no impact with "normal" evade level, only useful in conjunction with new Escapist... (same applies to Cat reflexes) Spell Elude: - useless atm, spell resistance bonus is too low even at level 5 to make any difference Mobility: - +2% at level 1 -> useless but if one invest 4-5 points in it Wild Spirit: - +2% at level 1 -> useless, no significant speed increase but on VERY long way Finesse: - mana cost is too high Repetition Shot: - please reduce mana cost, since you reduced damages Dual Shot: - casting time too long, reduce it a bit About barbs damages: - far too high, you'll have to nerf them soon... - new hunters are born... Great you fixed many bugs (finally), good work guys ! __________________ Annavilya / War-Luck (Haven)