Balance Update Stage 3: beacons

[Llayne]

There is much talk of balance these days and I feel that NGD needs to decide if they will stick to balancing all the classes around these beacons or if the beacons will themselves be the target of balancing. Your thoughts?

Poll options are simple so as to see where the players feel the focus of balancing should be.

[Dupa_z_Zasady]

Beacons should be balanced by removal. If NGD gets rid of them, they will be pretty balanced.

[Kitsuni]

Originally Posted by Dupa_z_Zasady

Beacons should be balanced by removal. If NGD gets rid of them, they will be pretty balanced.

They would never hurt their baby - and that's exactly the problem with the game, they keep adding all of this new crap with each "major" update, but they don't ever want to remove any of it when it turns out bad and the community hates them for it. So they will just end up nerfed so much that no one will ever use them instead. ^^

I wish NGD would learn that they can rethink and reuse content instead of trying to shoehorn bad ideas into general use.

[andres81]

The offensive beacon should be removed and replaced by something else, maybe a small woodden wall placed in the ground where a player can hide himself to get out of archer range?

[Kaixo]

I would prefer to see changes to classes, the warmaster tree should be the last change in my opinion.
I want a change to mind squasher and darkness sooner than later.

I don't like the warmaster tree, i would change it for a selection of an special skill for each class.
For example something like this:
Conjurers choose one:
Heal ally 700 instead of 500.
Defensive beacon.
Invocation Fenix, resurrect 4 allies with sanctuary and 2000hp.

Warlocks choose one:
Offensive teleport 15min.
Defensive teleport 10min.
Passive arcane devotion

Hunters:
7% more speed
pet more life and protection
special pets
...

[NSer]

Originally Posted by Kaixo

I would prefer to see changes to classes, the warmaster tree should be the last change in my opinion.
I want a change to mind squasher and darkness sooner than later.

I don't like the warmaster tree, i would change it for a selection of an special skill for each class.
For example something like this:
Conjurers choose one:
Heal ally 700 instead of 500.
Defensive beacon.
Invocation Fenix, resurrect 4 allies with sanctuary and 2000hp.

Warlocks choose one:
Offensive teleport 15min.
Defensive teleport 10min.
Passive arcane devotion

Hunters:
7% more speed
pet more life and protection
special pets
...

Passive arcane devotion? U mad? And what means specail pets? Leader mobs/Legendaries/Epic pets ?

[Latan]

Originally Posted by Kaixo

I would prefer to see changes to classes, the warmaster tree should be the last change in my opinion.

i hope too warmaster balance will be the last, after having balanced all the rest.

i would split offensive beacons in more beacons with 30 seconds duration and 100% resist to a single CC (maybe rising the casting time of the beacons to 3-5 seconds).
we would have the anti-dizzy beacon, anti-stun, anti-knock, anti-freeze, anti-slow, anti-cannot move, anti-cannot attack and each one with high casting time and small duration, so the caster should choose between beacons to cast if he doesn't want to waste half or 3/4 of the duration casting more beacons (maybe class related beacons...)

[Gabburtjuh]

Originally Posted by Kaixo

I would prefer to see changes to classes, the warmaster tree should be the last change in my opinion.
I want a change to mind squasher and darkness sooner than later.

I don't like the warmaster tree, i would change it for a selection of an special skill for each class.
For example something like this:
Conjurers choose one:
Heal ally 700 instead of 500.
Defensive beacon.
Invocation Fenix, resurrect 4 allies with sanctuary and 2000hp.

Warlocks choose one:
Offensive teleport 15min.
Defensive teleport 10min.
Passive arcane devotion

Hunters:
7% more speed
pet more life and protection
special pets
...

/disagree, it would be unfair ( and even worse for support classes) if some classes got personal buffs, and some got support buffs, increasing the already imba class balance

[ice_zero_cool]

I agree.

I don't want the beacons to be changed, they should be removed and replaced. IMO WM as a whole should be revamped and the spells should be unique for each class.

But, before anything, I'd really like to see all the classes balanced.

PS: Don't know if the WM revamping topic is outdated, haven't been in the forums for quite a while. :P

[PT_DaAr_PT]

The title is misleading.

What I'd do:
Remove offensive beacon. Rename Defensive beacon to Warmaster beacon. Create an innovative spell to fill the missing spot.
Do something like that for the teleport spells too. Add some goddamn variety, less copy pasta.