Worst Class?

[Hayir]

There is currently a poll on the spanish forum about which class is currently the worst.
To my surprise they consider knight as the worst, where i would have expected warlock to be the first.
https://www.championsofregnum.com/fo...d.php?t=108384

I always had the feeling the english community considers knight to be a decent class.

I read a bit through that thread with a translator, and if i understood right they mostly want a buff to knights in tanking and damaging. But I think they don't understand how OP the class will be if you buff the current knight in such ways. Knarb is already extremely strong, with the only weakness of low mobility, but that's an obvious downside for such a tanky class.
I personally wouldn't mind a buff for knights either, but rather in the support role.

Do we really want a ratio of 5/6 offensive classes? I really hope NGD doesn't go too much by that poll.

But let's see how the english community sees the classes.

[Kimahri_Ronso]

There is no such subclass as worst or best, each of them have their advantages and disadvantages, be it RvR or PvP.

There are only useless spells for each subclass, even too many.
Spells form the class, skills should be changed, it'd solve everything.

Didn't vote .

[Hayir]

Originally Posted by Kimahri_Ronso

There is no such subclass as worst or best, each of them have their advantages and disadvantages, be it RvR or PvP.

There are only useless spells for each subclass, even too many.
Spells form the class, skills should be changed, it'd solve everything.

Didn't vote .

Well there are many ways you could word that question.

Which class does need a buff the most? Which class has the most skills that need a change? etc.
And whichever class you think needs it, is basically worst for you.

[Monthser]

Yeah, i saw it too and i was surprised to see that knights consider their subclass as the worst. Locks are in bad shape true, but knights? Imho they are quite well, not perfect but much better than in the past. I dont know but it could be that a couple of players with multiaccounts started to vote like mad to try influence NGD.

[mind-trick]

I chose knight but thinking about it a bit longer i shouldve chosen lock lmao.
I think knight is considered worse in ra because more people means more damage means less tankability i guess & there are more knarbs in ra.
But yea, its between lock and knight for worst class

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Warlock is the most useful class on Ra after conjurer and barbarian. The reason knight is fine on Haven is because you need a bunch of barbs to focus one down, and their general tankiness is enough to survive for a long time. On ra you just get area'd to death like everyone else.

http://imgur.com/a/qJrTu

I didnt choose a class since I think they are all currently decent.

[Sentan]

Most people here will just vote for their main subclass lol BTW poll results are public

I vote for warlock since this is the most outdated class in CoR.

[Hayir]

Originally Posted by Hollow-Ichigo

Warlock is the most useful class on Ra after conjurer and barbarian. The reason knight is fine on Haven is because you need a bunch of barbs to focus one down, and their general tankiness is enough to survive for a long time. On ra you just get area'd to death like everyone else.

http://imgur.com/a/qJrTu

I didnt choose a class since I think they are all currently decent.

I disagree, at fort fights, which class do you see survive the longest pretty much always? It's knight. If 4 barbs hit you while you are unbuffed, of course you are supposed to die, what else should kill you? You are not supposed to be unkillable as a knight.
If you are unbuffed because you were CC'ed. it is your allies fault for not dispeling you. For not healing you, for not giving you shield wall.
I really wonder what most knights vision their class to be. That they are literally unkillable? That all there allies die and just they stand around...and do what?

Also those area rushes from behind that happen all the time on RA and wipe zergs, maybe once in a while hunters should do their job and try to warn the group. It isn't really that hard to avoid those rushes if you pay attention. Most won't move an inch even if you warn them though, but that's another story.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Originally Posted by Hayir

I disagree, at fort fights, which class do you see survive the longest pretty much always? It's knight. If 4 barbs hit you while you are unbuffed, of course you are supposed to die, what else should kill you? You are not supposed to be unkillable as a knight.
If you are unbuffed because you were CC'ed. it is your allies fault for not dispeling you. For not healing you, for not giving you shield wall.
I really wonder what most knights vision their class to be. That they are literally unkillable? That all there allies die and just they stand around...and do what?

In that screenshot I was in defensive stance, its not uncommon for 1.5k+ areas to get through. I agree that knights survive the longest but from what I've noticed, most people dont even take defensive auras, or even protect ally for that matter. Using knight as a knarb is probably the worst thing to do but people enjoy it for some reason

Originally Posted by Hayir

Most won't move an inch even if you warn them though, but that's another story.

No one reads the chat, you can say 'atras verdes/cabras' as much as you want but people will just stand still like they are invincible or something. Such is life on a server full of scrubs

[rinky]

Originally Posted by Hayir

I disagree, at fort fights, which class do you see survive the longest pretty much always? It's knight. If 4 barbs hit you while you are unbuffed, of course you are supposed to die, what else should kill you? You are not supposed to be unkillable as a knight.
If you are unbuffed because you were CC'ed. it is your allies fault for not dispeling you. For not healing you, for not giving you shield wall.
I really wonder what most knights vision their class to be. That they are literally unkillable? That all there allies die and just they stand around...and do what?

Well... on RA -- they stand around in front of the fort, walk into the nearest concentration of enemies, nearly undamageable (block/resist/whatever), and cut loose with typhoon. Then the next one does it. Then the next one does it.

Tanks, they are. That's okay, I think. But those high defenses should subtract from their movement speed, their attack speed, or their damage. Defensive Support and Defensive Stance do that. I think some of the other powers should, as well. Which ones and how they would balance would require careful thought.

Haste should not go to +50% at 5. +30% would be more appropriate. And, even then, I'm not sure "haste" belongs in a knight's powers.

But that's me.

Rinky