Ignis Haven - loosing more players

[Memocan]

Hallo guys,
maybe its more a byebye again ...

after this new inva-system, which only allows syrtis to invade realms,
makes ppl just talk about to sell their accounts or switching the game.
today a whole clan/grp left ignis to join a new game.

Im not mad about that ppl and i know this reaction is normal, because
NGD did again huge mistakes.

Just want to say, that the merge dont will help us.
tip: You should hear the opinion of the players.
Players just talking about how ignorance ngd with their changes is,
and ppl have enough of this.

see pics.

Arjan.

[Tenel_Ka]

NGD already said that the invasion system is a work-in-progress. It's easy to criticise, but I haven't seen a single invasion suggestion by the community that doesn't have major problems. Balancing invasions isn't easy; whatever makes invasions harder makes them more zerg-dependent (aka Syrtis), and whatever makes them easier allows the zerg realm (again, Syrtis) to invade more.

If that's all the whining that's occurred in Ignis, I wouldn't worry. I don't think losing one player who thinks that "NGD is mostly Syrtis based" will be a huge loss to Ignis.

Anyway, if it's "more a byebye again" for you, then I'm happy to take your account off your hands. I prefer fighting for the losing realm, and I can do it without whining on forums.

[boilingpoint]

Originally Posted by Tenel_Ka

Anyway, if it's "more a byebye again" for you, then I'm happy to take your account off your hands. I prefer fighting for the losing realm, and I can do it without whining on forums.

wahahhhaha what good joke you make.you have toons in all the realm so when was last time you log ignis or alsius to defend from zerging syrtis???? cuz too scared of reputation in syrtis you are part of zerg don't act ignorant or blind to the problem, with trying to showoff comments you don't fool anyone.

There is NOT A SINGLE player in syrtis anywhere who would be anywhere but in syrtis when zerging that is truth.

[Tenel_Ka]

Originally Posted by boilingpoint

wahahhhaha what good joke you make.you have toons in all the realm so when was last time you log ignis or alsius to defend from zerging syrtis???? cuz too scared of reputation in syrtis you are part of zerg don't act ignorant or blind to the problem, with trying to showoff comments you don't fool anyone.

There is NOT A SINGLE player in syrtis anywhere who would be anywhere but in syrtis when zerging that is truth.

Woah, you're angry. You really live up to your forum name. I'm not blind to the problem, I'm well aware of how dominant Syrtis is. I just don't think it's fair to criticise NGD when they've put in more effort lately than ever.

I don't play Alsius because I got tired of certain players telling me to go back to Syrtis or refusing to heal me when I was only trying to help. I don't have access to any characters in Ignis L50+ anymore. Please don't act like you know anything about me, if you did then you'd know I've spent countless hours fighting against invasions in all three realms.

[MDpro]

Originally Posted by Tenel_Ka

I prefer fighting for the losing realm

I really appreciate people that think like this, instead of taking the easy way out to win. The game would be so much more balanced and really pretty amazing if more people thought like that. The RARE times that all 3 realms have their good numbers at the same time, the game is indescribably fun. It's times like that, that it's less about outnumbered invasions, and more about just having fun fighting. Then it's more about how well the realm worked together, rather than one just zerging the others.

I remember when (after very briefly trying out Alsius and Syrtis in Haven, in which I got no farther than level 14 in each one) I logged into this account for the first time since 09, and on it was my original Alsius Ra character, and the level 1 character for Ignis in Horus I made back then to see what Ignis looked like. I logged into that character, and loved Ignis right away. It wasn't that long after I knew Ignis was my home, that our realm started making a wish or two every night for a little while. As much as it made me want to get to war zone levels and be a part of it, I started thinking that our realm had it too easy. It made me almost want to leave, because I don't like feeling as if I just hopped on the bandwagon. It's a good thing I stuck it out and believed Ignis was my realm, because we were devastated for about 5 months straight after that.

I just hope Ignis and Alsius players come back soon, the game is really amazing when all 3 realms have good numbers at the same time. If it was like that all the time, this game's popularity would grow so fast.

[Raindance]

Originally Posted by MDpro

I really appreciate people that think like this,

You poor naive soul.

If only the people who said that were actually less (drama) talky and more do-y.

Originally Posted by Tenel_Ka

NGD already said that the invasion system is a work-in-progress.

So shouldn't work-in-progress material stay in work-in-progress servers?

Originally Posted by Tenel_Ka

It's easy to criticise, but I haven't seen a single invasion suggestion by the community that doesn't have major problems.

>implying NGD actually reads suggestions concerned with Invasions.

Originally Posted by Tenel_Ka

If that's all the whining that's occurred in Ignis, I wouldn't worry. I don't think losing one player who thinks that "NGD is mostly Syrtis based" will be a huge loss to Ignis.

I wouldn't really call that whining just because he used the word crap. If posting messages like this aren't allowed anymore on the forum, then what's the purpose of it? Clearly, no one uses The Inn section anymore because everyone has Facebook. What is more, this isn't for you to analyze and draw conclusions, it's mainly for NGD. So if you wanna talk more about bravery, dedication and fighting for the losing realm, go ahead, I almost cried!

[Tenel_Ka]

Originally Posted by Raindance

So shouldn't work-in-progress material stay in work-in-progress servers?

Releasing this invasion system to the public, which is perceived as an improved invasion system by some players, is the best way to test it. Players usually return when there's an update, and regular updates shows a healthy (or less unhealthy) game.

Originally Posted by Raindance

implying NGD actually reads suggestions concerned with Invasions ... this isn't for you to analyze and draw conclusions, it's mainly for NGD.

I'm confused; are you saying NGD reads forums or not? I wasn't implying NGD reads suggestions, I was pointing out that a lot of the players complain about invasion system and NGD while not being able to think of a better system themselves.

So if you wanna talk more about bravery, dedication and fighting for the losing realm, go ahead, I almost cried!

I prefer fighting for the losing side because it's more fun and challenging, not out of "bravery and dedication". I did not mean to imply that I'm some selfless hero. Since you talk like you know me, you should know that I'm anything but

[Memocan]

Originally Posted by Tenel_Ka

NGD already said that the invasion system is a work-in-progress. It's easy to criticise, but I haven't seen a single invasion suggestion by the community that doesn't have major problems. Balancing invasions isn't easy; whatever makes invasions harder makes them more zerg-dependent (aka Syrtis), and whatever makes them easier allows the zerg realm (again, Syrtis) to invade more.

If that's all the whining that's occurred in Ignis, I wouldn't worry. I don't think losing one player who thinks that "NGD is mostly Syrtis based" will be a huge loss to Ignis.

Anyway, if it's "more a byebye again" for you, then I'm happy to take your account off your hands. I prefer fighting for the losing realm, and I can do it without whining on forums.

You from Syrtis talking about that you dont have a problem to
fight for a losing realm? Funny. Gratz ur skilled to talk shit.

Weird that 100% of players on our side are "crying".
If ppl are leaving the game ... there is really a huge problem.

looks like u cant see anything in ur zerg

[Monthser]

I don't really understand why you are blaming NGD. The new system gives for every realm the same chances. That at this moment Syrtis has more players is not really NGD's fault. That's a combination of factors like multirealm players and some old players -like myself- coming back to see how this new system works. People forget very easy that other realms have been in the same position. Take Alsius. Alsius has had a large period of time where he was the king of the game. Alsius could invade whenever he wanted.
It seemed that almost everyone changes to the winnning realm letting the other two empty.
As we speak in Ra is Alsius now the dominating realm. Everybody is playing in Alsius now.
For how long? That's the question. As soon as ppl gets tired they switched again to another realms and then all starts over again.
There is a large group of multirealmers who influence the game in this manner. This group creates a sucking effect attracting the rest with them.

[MDpro]

As we speak in Ra is Alsius now the dominating realm.

I still play there in Ra, Alsius winning there literally JUST started to happen in the last week though. I remember every time I logged in Ra during the Halloween event, Alsius gate was wide open for Syrtis or Ignis to come in whenever they pleased lol. I got ganked hardcore inside the realm during that time.

Originally Posted by Monthser

As soon as ppl gets tired they switched again to another realms and then all starts over again.
There is a large group of multirealmers who influence the game in this manner. This group creates a sucking effect attracting the rest with them.

100% right. I think constant switching between realms in the same server on one pc or isp address should be more restricted if possible. And with this potential change in mind, I've come up with an idea that would be good to go along with it, and that's NGD implementing a ticket system for people who want to switch realms. Meaning they have to explain their reasoning before given the chance to switch to a new realm. My idea is that they get a 5 day trial account to try out another realm if their reasoning is good enough that NGD feels they deserve to be granted it (like if they want to go from a populated realm to a less populated realm). Then if they chose to move on, they have a very short time to play in their old realm for reasons like giving others their gear or something, and then their old characters get deleted and their account starts over with the new realm they chose.