Increase of ranged population?

Iheartpancakes · 03-13-2015, 02:06 PM

Is it just me, or has there been a massive increase in ranged classes? I'm finding it difficult to get from fort to fort without getting ganked by a 7-8 group of archers. Yesterday, Syrtis managed to range the lvl 4 door at herb. Also, Alsius had 1 barb at Imperia and the rest were archers pew pewing everyone on the bridge.
This is making warrior a little less fun, and nothing good except for auras and door smashing. Now I'm not complaining, but I'm just wondering why the sudden influx of archers? I'm seeing new names pop up in the form of marksmen and hunters every day, but very little warriors. Shall we all just drop the warrior classes and create archers instead?

Kopstoot · 03-13-2015, 02:09 PM

because archer is the best class in the game no lie

Iheartpancakes · 03-13-2015, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kopstoot

because archer is the best class in the game no lie

I don't play one. What is it that you prefer over warrior classes?

Kopstoot · 03-13-2015, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Iheartpancakes

I don't play one. What is it that you prefer over warrior classes?

Archer is the most well-rounded, warrior has limited playstyle. warrior overall is alright tho

Robasiewicz · 03-13-2015, 02:41 PM

since horn is usable only with 5+ players (caster included) it's only natural to see such groups. additionally teammates should have similar speeds, so none get left behind. If you have 5 players in your group and 1 dies, you can't use horn, which in turn can lead to other deaths.

with this in mind, one should note that there are only 3 classes with similar speed: barb, marx and hunter (with marx being the slowest).
Barbs operate at a different range than archers (duh) and parties having a barb or two run the greater risk of losing the ability to use horn.
This is why you can often see all-archer groups.

Decent dmg, good range, fast movement, good overall survivability.

oim · 03-15-2015, 12:27 AM

Max range 30 m. Everybody happy. So simple. But we have 40 +. Why?

Or damage reduction for long ranged attacks over 30 m.

halvdan · 03-15-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kopstoot

because archer is the best class in the game no lie

Archer with jewels, you mean? still no, archers suck. 20 normals, please

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Originally Posted by Iheartpancakes

I don't play one. What is it that you prefer over warrior classes?

It's nothing about archer being strong. Atleast not a jewelled one. It's just that it's easy class to play, you don't risk much, if you're fast or have 50 range, you can pew pew from far and then run away. Most players prefer using only ingame shortcuts(superior range, speed, jewels...) to achieve victories over skill. Just look on class like warlock, it's much harder class to play. Archer isn't much stronger imo, it's just easier to play.

And archer is easiest class for winning alongside knowing nothing about mastering it. Sure, there are many fine archers there, but imo this is the reason why there are many archers.

Kopstoot · 03-15-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by halvdan

Archer with jewels, you mean? still no, archers suck. 20 normals, please

I deal around 250-300 ish dmg. i dont have jewels, just a decent bow.

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Originally Posted by halvdan

It's nothing about archer being strong. Atleast not a jewelled one. It's just that it's easy class to play, you don't risk much, if you're fast or have 50 range, you can pew pew from far and then run away. Most players prefer using only ingame shortcuts(superior range, speed, jewels...) to achieve victories over skill. Just look on class like warlock, it's much harder class to play. Archer isn't much stronger imo, it's just easier to play.

And archer is easiest class for winning alongside knowing nothing about mastering it. Sure, there are many fine archers there, but imo this is the reason why there are many archers.

So archer is easy to play and barb isnt? idk about that

halvdan · 03-15-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kopstoot

So archer is easy to play and barb isnt? idk about that

Oh, barb is easy to play too..in my opinion. But feel free to take me not too serious as I don't really play barb nor archer ... so my opinion is kinda biased. But yeah, I think barb is easy to play too, especially if you got DI or smth.

Actually,imo archers and barbs are easy to play, knights being somewhere in the middle, and mages being the hardest to play. My opinion, enjoy.

Kyrenis · 03-15-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by halvdan

Archer with jewels, you mean? still no, archers suck. 20 normals, please

Only hunters that don't have a proper setup hit that low against shield wall tbh, with average lvl 60 gear you can deal some nice DPS.

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Originally Posted by Kopstoot

So archer is easy to play and barb isnt? idk about that

Barb is easy to play, but it is required to take risks if you want to get anything done.
If an archer doesn't want to take risks, he doesn't have to.

03-13-2015, 02:06 PM	#1
Iheartpancakes Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 273	Increase of ranged population? Is it just me, or has there been a massive increase in ranged classes? I'm finding it difficult to get from fort to fort without getting ganked by a 7-8 group of archers. Yesterday, Syrtis managed to range the lvl 4 door at herb. Also, Alsius had 1 barb at Imperia and the rest were archers pew pewing everyone on the bridge. This is making warrior a little less fun, and nothing good except for auras and door smashing. Now I'm not complaining, but I'm just wondering why the sudden influx of archers? I'm seeing new names pop up in the form of marksmen and hunters every day, but very little warriors. Shall we all just drop the warrior classes and create archers instead?

03-13-2015, 02:09 PM	#2
Kopstoot Apprentice Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 58	because archer is the best class in the game no lie

03-13-2015, 02:41 PM	#5
Robasiewicz Apprentice Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 53	since horn is usable only with 5+ players (caster included) it's only natural to see such groups. additionally teammates should have similar speeds, so none get left behind. If you have 5 players in your group and 1 dies, you can't use horn, which in turn can lead to other deaths. with this in mind, one should note that there are only 3 classes with similar speed: barb, marx and hunter (with marx being the slowest). Barbs operate at a different range than archers (duh) and parties having a barb or two run the greater risk of losing the ability to use horn. This is why you can often see all-archer groups. Decent dmg, good range, fast movement, good overall survivability.

03-15-2015, 12:27 AM	#6
oim Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 56	Max range 30 m. Everybody happy. So simple. But we have 40 +. Why? Or damage reduction for long ranged attacks over 30 m.