Old Hunter...what's new??

Comp · 11-17-2015, 01:33 AM

I'm hoping someone could point me to the goods, bads and all things that are new(ish) for the hunter class.

I'll dig through change logs ... but that could take a while, been away from the game for 3 years or so...

godismyjudge · 11-17-2015, 08:34 AM

If you like going with a pet, then after long time of not being possible to camo yout pet, you can do it again (but you have to sacrifice few powerpoints for passive skill to do it). Also pet damage buf (Bestial wrath) got boosted a bit, health passives and armor passives too, and there was a change in Skin of the beast (shorter duration, shorter cast time, shorter cooldown, less mana).

Stunning fist was changed from 'Cannot attack' to 'Stun'.
Stalker surrounding requires allies near you and you can't use it alone now.
Many crowd control spells got less duration now, ambush range is 12 meters.

Hunter bellow lvl60 and non-WM hit very low now (WM armor and new 230ap armors) and even on mages, who got bracelets (around 100 damage normal hits on a mage). To deal reasonable damage, you will need to wait to get WM jewelery or boss jewels. Where you deal 100 damage, your pet can do 250 when buffed with Bestial Wrath (it can go to like 450 on lower level players).

That's about changes that I remember.

Sentan · 11-17-2015, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Compost

I'm hoping someone could point me to the goods..

Better dps due to wmc jewells, buffed pet skill tree (dmg/hp/defence).. Buffed Shield Piercing (lb first spell), Dual Shot (sb), new CC skill (immobilize 0 range %dmg) in Short bow tree, hinder with -% dmg debuff (sb tree), changes on retalition and RNG spells (cat reflex etc) which imo are still useless.

Dumberest · 11-17-2015, 10:59 AM

just skill conf 5 like many goat archers and you be fine

JakQuickFootOp · 11-17-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dumberest

just skill conf 5 like many goat archers and you be fine

lmao you got that right.

Robasiewicz · 11-17-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentan

Better dps due to wmc jewells, buffed pet skill tree (dmg/hp/defence).. Buffed Shield Piercing (lb first spell), Dual Shot (sb), new CC skill (immobilize 0 range %dmg) in Short bow tree, hinder with -% dmg debuff (sb tree), changes on retalition and RNG spells (cat reflex etc) which imo are still useless.

to this fine list i'd like to add:
ens arrow got less dmg and a bit higer mana cost
ambush cast time was cut down from 1 to 0,5s
escapist and SOTW are now 100%, cant cast both at the same time
retaliation no longer reflects all dot ticks. supposedly it now reflects spells correctly, also increased CD
acrobatic got nerfed a bit
evasive tactics no reduce hit chance, it reduces CS instead
spell elude is still crap
horn of the wind now requires 4 allies nearby

as hit chance is no longer a thing:
every spell/item that granted hit chance gives critical hit chance instead
every spell reducing oponent hit chance now reduces his critical hit chance

that would be it, or so i think

godismyjudge · 11-17-2015, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Robasiewicz

to this fine list i'd like to add:
ens arrow got less dmg and a bit higer mana cost
ambush cast time was cut down from 1 to 0,5s
escapist and SOTW are now 100%, cant cast both at the same time
retaliation no longer reflects all dot ticks. supposedly it now reflects spells correctly, also increased CD
acrobatic got nerfed a bit
evasive tactics no reduce hit chance, it reduces CS instead
spell elude is still crap
horn of the wind now requires 4 allies nearby

as hit chance is no longer a thing:
every spell/item that granted hit chance gives critical hit chance instead
every spell reducing oponent hit chance now reduces his critical hit chance

that would be it, or so i think

Retaliation (once again after last update) does reflect DoT ticks.

Robasiewicz · 11-17-2015, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by godismyjudge

Retaliation (once again after last update) does reflect DoT ticks.

oh, I was not aware of that. Thanks for the info

pieceofmeat · 11-17-2015, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by godismyjudge

Retaliation (once again after last update) does reflect DoT ticks.

True, likely NGD want archers to be easy mode in all situations, they can still squeeze some money out for the most item dependent classes.

JakQuickFootOp · 11-18-2015, 01:21 AM

I think you are broken record. I use conf 1-3 mostly 1. Plus it's a fact most goat archers do use conf 5 lmao. It's not even needed. Oh wait i forgot to mention with full wm jewel set using conf 5 shows sign of loser and it is because i have rekt many unless it's a zerg chasing me.
Best,

11-17-2015, 01:33 AM	#1
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	Old Hunter...what's new?? I'm hoping someone could point me to the goods, bads and all things that are new(ish) for the hunter class. I'll dig through change logs ... but that could take a while, been away from the game for 3 years or so... __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...)

11-17-2015, 10:59 AM	#4
Dumberest Master Join Date: May 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 302	just skill conf 5 like many goat archers and you be fine __________________ Jesus is the way,the truth,the life!

11-18-2015, 01:21 AM	#10
JakQuickFootOp Pledge Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 14	I think you are broken record. I use conf 1-3 mostly 1. Plus it's a fact most goat archers do use conf 5 lmao. It's not even needed. Oh wait i forgot to mention with full wm jewel set using conf 5 shows sign of loser and it is because i have rekt many unless it's a zerg chasing me. Best, __________________ Jak Quickfoot OP

11-17-2015, 08:34 AM	#2
godismyjudge Initiate Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 202	If you like going with a pet, then after long time of not being possible to camo yout pet, you can do it again (but you have to sacrifice few powerpoints for passive skill to do it). Also pet damage buf (Bestial wrath) got boosted a bit, health passives and armor passives too, and there was a change in Skin of the beast (shorter duration, shorter cast time, shorter cooldown, less mana). Stunning fist was changed from 'Cannot attack' to 'Stun'. Stalker surrounding requires allies near you and you can't use it alone now. Many crowd control spells got less duration now, ambush range is 12 meters. Hunter bellow lvl60 and non-WM hit very low now (WM armor and new 230ap armors) and even on mages, who got bracelets (around 100 damage normal hits on a mage). To deal reasonable damage, you will need to wait to get WM jewelery or boss jewels. Where you deal 100 damage, your pet can do 250 when buffed with Bestial Wrath (it can go to like 450 on lower level players). That's about changes that I remember.