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Old 01-14-2008, 06:37 PM   #1
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Ok, for those of you who don't know, Java isn't a new coffee brand, a car wash or a set of games on your cellphone. It's a programming language (the thing that we use to write programs) which is NOT new at all, but still we hear some flames from time to time.

Programmers and Students of IT and IT-Related careers, tell me why Java isn't good. Tell me why you want to wipe it out of the Earth. Tell me why it drives you insane, is it because of the Object paradigm?

Ok, I understand that knowing just ONE programming language isn't good (in fact, real programmers can learn any new language in a matter of days), but that doesn't make Java so bad...

Is it slow? Well, kind of, but it's good as a data manager frontend, not as a game engine or so. It's meant to be multi-platform and functional, not fast!!!

Sorry... I wanted to make sure that 3 years of java weren't a loss of time on my career...
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:42 PM   #2
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Ok, for those of you who don't know, Java isn't a new coffee brand, a car wash or a set of games on your cellphone. It's a programming language (the thing that we use to write programs) which is NOT new at all, but still we hear some flames from time to time.

Programmers and Students of IT and IT-Related careers, tell me why Java isn't good. Tell me why you want to wipe it out of the Earth. Tell me why it drives you insane, is it because of the Object paradigm?

Ok, I understand that knowing just ONE programming language isn't good (in fact, real programmers can learn any new language in a matter of days), but that doesn't make Java so bad...

Is it slow? Well, kind of, but it's good as a data manager frontend, not as a game engine or so. It's meant to be multi-platform and functional, not fast!!!

Sorry... I wanted to make sure that 3 years of java weren't a loss of time on my career...
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Nah, I think that java its nice, its just that when someone doesnt like it, he says it, then other guy reads that post, and posts it in another forum, another guy reads it and comments that in the irc chat, the fact is that around 90% of the people that hate java doesnt know why they hate it, or just they didn't like the sintax in the 10mins they used it.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:52 PM   #3
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Java is a global multi platform language, so its usefull... but something tells me that some1 will write a faster multi platform code soon, cause Java is soooo slow...
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Java is a global multi platform language, so its usefull... but something tells me that some1 will write a faster multi platform code soon, cause Java is soooo slow...
java WAS slowly.. well now is very slow with web application, bad the others kind of problems can be resolved by java. Java could be used in webservers (jsp), apps, db's, use xml documents, very powefull gui's... all that u want

since java 1.6 the apps isnt too slow, there was a big change with this version.
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Java only had a reason in the past, that wasn't free. Now for bad luck, I don't any reason to not be used.

And what about python + QT4/GTK/WxWindow

Or QT4/GTK/WxWIndow + C++ ?
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Java only had a reason in the past, that wasn't free. Now for bad luck, I don't any reason to not be used.

And what about python + QT4/GTK/WxWindow

Or QT4/GTK/WxWIndow + C++ ?

Python is very nice, slower that java, but still nice.
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Python is very nice, slower that java, but still nice.
Java is a precompiled bytecode based language (it means it's not completely compiled, it's interpreted by the JVM), but Python is totally interpreted. That's because it's slow.


Hey, java is not THAT slow when you know how to use it... For instance, don't use Strings to save a file, use a StringBuffer.
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Java is a precompiled bytecode based language (it means it's not completely compiled, it's interpreted by the JVM), but Python is totally interpreted. That's because it's slow.

Wrong, python is bytecode too.
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Ok, for those of you who don't know, Java isn't a new coffee brand, a car wash or a set of games on your cellphone. It's a programming language (the thing that we use to write programs) which is NOT new at all, but still we hear some flames from time to time.

Programmers and Students of IT and IT-Related careers, tell me why Java isn't good. Tell me why you want to wipe it out of the Earth. Tell me why it drives you insane, is it because of the Object paradigm?

Ok, I understand that knowing just ONE programming language isn't good (in fact, real programmers can learn any new language in a matter of days), but that doesn't make Java so bad...

Is it slow? Well, kind of, but it's good as a data manager frontend, not as a game engine or so. It's meant to be multi-platform and functional, not fast!!!

Sorry... I wanted to make sure that 3 years of java weren't a loss of time on my career...
Haha Don't you know how limited java is after all? 3D making with java is particualry in possible the code line for one object would reach huge numbers because it is hard to handel.
Under folders of java are limited in use as well. Java is good for small range code which doesn'tinclude too much parametred to handel. If you want to see what they have actually done; runescape is your answer it is the best Java based MMORPG but the graphical side is booring because its simple limits.

Other ways java is nice language to learn but I would say C++ and python I prefer those (Python mostly because the linux support)
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