A serious problem for conjurers....

DemonMonger · 02-12-2008, 10:28 PM

A few days ago I read a post about people saying that conjurers do not heal them when they are doing xp. Maybe this is a reason why....
For the past 2 months when anyone has healed me in xp battle, they have wasted time effort and mana, and they get 0 xp no matter how much they heal me...

A picture is worth 1000 words...

GIGO305 · 02-12-2008, 10:49 PM

TY DMC you are the only person that understands why conjus hate their job i can heal a lvl 15 soooo much that he kills an aprentise but if i dont do at least 500-700 DMG i wont get any xp and if i do more than 1/4 damage i get most of the XP teaching conjus that the more you fight the more you get and honestly its not fun being a MEDIC but if it gave more RP and XP healing just a liltle bit ill definately heal more than when i see ppl dying or zarkit got stolen

ByteMe · 02-12-2008, 10:49 PM

I've noticed that it is VERY random on when you get xp and when you don't. Sometimes I get xp when I cast regen on someone running by and many seconds later they make a kill and other times I heal and mana them throughout the entire fight and nothing.

GIGO305 · 02-12-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ByteMe

I've noticed that it is VERY random on when you get xp and when you don't. Sometimes I get xp when I cast regen on someone running by and many seconds later they make a kill and other times I heal and mana them throughout the entire fight and nothing.

yea that happens for some reason but i dont want to steal XP i want to earn it fair thats why some ppl dont level with me unless i give them mana, makes me feal bad about my self as if im expected to do this and not deny it and newbie conjus have been prostituting them selvs by coming to WZ and no body says anything because all they do is heal and mana as if selling them selvs and not getting anything in return i think everyone should make at least 1 conju to see how its like

DemonMonger · 02-12-2008, 11:14 PM

yea... i fought 25 aquantis in a row... the conjurers got 0 xp for assisting me......

GIGO305 · 02-12-2008, 11:17 PM

make them fight for it and watch how they will rob you 3/4 the XP this is way out of balance no one levels with me because i fight but dont have mana comunion yet

El_Naso · 02-12-2008, 11:31 PM

Auras still give a lot of exp.

Let´s take a look at the problem: a mob has 1800 hp; someone has to make 1800 dmg to kill the mob; a conjurer has to buff the guy twice to get half contribution (900 + 900 = 1800) so theoretically the conjurer would get 50% of the exp the mob gives.

However the guy that kills the mob doesen´t do exactly 1800 damage to kill it, he does some more. Add to that the amount of life the guy lost, wich counts as damage dealt. If you are supporting a barb you can expect both numbers to increase drastically.

With half of the xp bar, as a level 38 conjurer with lvl 4 buffs, lvl 4 mana comunion and lvl 5 heals including lvl 5 greater healing I was able to get to 39 in about two hours supporting a lvl 45-49 party at melekety beach. make your own conclusions.

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Originally Posted by DemonMonger

yea... i fought 25 aquantis in a row... the conjurers got 0 xp for assisting me......

Conjurers are capable of supporting a large amount of people. Helping just one is not wrong but somewhat dull.

Not getting any exp at all however... that´s just plain weired. Never happened to me.

DemonMonger · 02-12-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Naso

Auras still give a lot of exp.

Let´s take a look at the problem: a mob has 1800 hp; someone has to make 1800 dmg to kill the mob; a conjurer has to buff the guy twice to get half contribution (900 + 900 = 1800) so theoretically the conjurer would get 50% of the exp the mob gives.

However the guy that kills the mob doesen´t do exactly 1800 damage to kill it, he does some more. Add to that the amount of life the guy lost, wich counts as damage dealt. If you are supporting a barb you can expect both numbers to increase drastically.

With half of the xp bar, as a level 38 conjurer with lvl 4 buffs, lvl 4 mana comunion and lvl 5 heals including lvl 5 greater healing I was able to get to 39 in about two hours supporting a lvl 45-49 party at melekety beach. make your own conclusions.

Conjurers are capable of supporting a large amount of people. Helping just one is not wrong but somewhat dull.

Not getting any exp at all however... that´s just plain weired. Never happened to me.

still... there are not always alot of people around to support.... try healing me... and see if you get xp..

putkonen · 02-13-2008, 12:58 AM

I noticed when i buff someone and after that i cast ambitious sacrifice i dont get exp. Maybe it's just coincidence i dont know. But many times i get no exp when healing or buffing.

Godofsilver · 02-13-2008, 08:29 PM

It's ironic how that works, seeing as casting deflecting barrier on my knight sometimes gives me xp

Conjurers NEED xp for healing

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02-13-2008, 08:29 PM	#10
Godofsilver Master Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 338	It's ironic how that works, seeing as casting deflecting barrier on my knight sometimes gives me xp Conjurers NEED xp for healing __________________ GoS

02-12-2008, 10:49 PM	#2
GIGO305 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: with ur mom Posts: 939	TY DMC you are the only person that understands why conjus hate their job i can heal a lvl 15 soooo much that he kills an aprentise but if i dont do at least 500-700 DMG i wont get any xp and if i do more than 1/4 damage i get most of the XP teaching conjus that the more you fight the more you get and honestly its not fun being a MEDIC but if it gave more RP and XP healing just a liltle bit ill definately heal more than when i see ppl dying or zarkit got stolen

02-12-2008, 10:49 PM	#3
ByteMe Master Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 423	I've noticed that it is VERY random on when you get xp and when you don't. Sometimes I get xp when I cast regen on someone running by and many seconds later they make a kill and other times I heal and mana them throughout the entire fight and nothing.

02-12-2008, 11:14 PM	#5
DemonMonger Marquis Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edge of the Abyss Posts: 2,066	yea... i fought 25 aquantis in a row... the conjurers got 0 xp for assisting me......

02-12-2008, 11:17 PM	#6
GIGO305 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: with ur mom Posts: 939	make them fight for it and watch how they will rob you 3/4 the XP this is way out of balance no one levels with me because i fight but dont have mana comunion yet

02-13-2008, 12:58 AM	#9
putkonen Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 221	I noticed when i buff someone and after that i cast ambitious sacrifice i dont get exp. Maybe it's just coincidence i dont know. But many times i get no exp when healing or buffing.