Why classes become overpowered

[DemonMonger]

Those who are wise in tactics shape how we see classes as overpowered or underpowered....

[BlooD]

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

Those who are wise in tactics shape how we see classes as overpowered or underpowered....

O Rly?

Thanks for sharing it with us Demon.

[Inkster]

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

Those who are wise in tactics shape how we see classes as overpowered or underpowered....

I have been saying pretty much the same thing for months, its great to see someone else saying the same thing

[DemonMonger]

yea it's a shame people can't always just run in and kill everyone <sarcasm>

[Mattdoesrock]

Dammit, I hate to agree but you're right.

Not because I dont want to agree with you, but it takes out the / my arguement of; "Damn they beat me! That class / spell is so overpowered."

When in reality its perhaps not because they're over powered, but because they're a better / smarter player.

[magnet]

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

Dammit, I hate to agree but you're right.

Not because I dont want to agree with you, but it takes out the / my arguement of; "Damn they beat me! That class / spell is so overpowered."

When in reality its perhaps not because they're over powered, but because they're a better / smarter player.

Not at all. Some classes are overpowered. I played all day with my level 45 Marksman and killed a lot of level 50 (Hunters & Mages are extra easy) with no sweat. Warriors are trickier but they usually give up when I cast Escapist then SotW... And evade half of their attacks.

Here it goes: Warlock or Warjurer sees me. Attacks me. Me resists. Me evades. But during that time I casted Death Sentence, starting taking my range back while casting Serpents bite, a few hits with recharge arrows (300 to 600 critical on mages), when they're low, they go for energy barrier, oh too bad, I cast Ethereal arrow, you dead anyway!

I had a Warlock lv 50 cast me Golem Fist lv 5.. That's 1000 hps on my lv 50 warlock, was 500 on my lv 45 marks! Would be OK if the Marks didnt do as many dmg as the Warlock, but he does.

I make sure to keep some mana for Low pro if stuff goes bad so my allies can finish them during 7s... Or if there are too many enemies, I'll just go in SotW and enjoy the battle for 20s while everyone is getting killed around me.. Yeeppeeeeeeeee.

With hunters it depends but it's mostly easy for the Marks, and I don't use Confuse.

Don't fool yourself. Some classes are overpowered. I know 'cause I play 5 out of 6 (2 lv 50, 1 lv 48, 1 lv 45 and 1 low 40).

I had the same experience with my Hunter but on a lesser scale since I didn't kill level 50 so easily... but with hunters you don't care, you camou and go kill lower levels or people with 10% hps (better if they're resting, it might be troublesome if they start attacking back!).

[GIGO305]

true all classes are overpowered if you know how to play them and some are just destined to have weaknesses. im a warju and can kill chalenging hunters, lvl50 barberians like noobs, easy masks, easy knights, lvl 49 warlocks(sometimes, 47 and less 55% i will win) and other conjus/warjus mean sht to me(they are EEEASSY to kill!!!!!). as you can see i have a hard time with knights and masks, litle with warlocks and hunters. this is because i have mastered the art of warjuring without sacrifising suport meaning i whup ur ass but i allways got my allys back. another thing i mastered is somons, zarkit espasificly and use it to my most advantage making me able to kill higher lvls (i still wish to see a warjurer/conjurer overpowered tread) its not that they are pts ect its that im a way better player then them, not to brag but i know how to fight them better then they do to me wich im glad of bringing conjurers out of the defenseless pile and on the ofense. notice all the buggers or "hunters" that we all hate are not abusing bugs (especialy with curse its not bugged thats how it is) they just found good powers and more ppl started using but someone else not them abuses it and they have to find a new strategy and thats how its always been even for me but i get over it and find new setups. its just a matter of experiance and "being good".

[Signatus]

Originally Posted by magnet

Not at all. Some classes are overpowered. I played all day with my level 45 Marksman and killed a lot of level 50 (Hunters & Mages are extra easy) with no sweat. Warriors are trickier but they usually give up when I cast Escapist then SotW... And evade half of their attacks.

Here it goes: Warlock or Warjurer sees me. Attacks me. Me resists. Me evades. But during that time I casted Death Sentence, starting taking my range back while casting Serpents bite, a few hits with recharge arrows (300 to 600 critical on mages), when they're low, they go for energy barrier, oh too bad, I cast Ethereal arrow, you dead anyway!

I had a Warlock lv 50 cast me Golem Fist lv 5.. That's 1000 hps on my lv 50 warlock, was 500 on my lv 45 marks! Would be OK if the Marks didnt do as many dmg as the Warlock, but he does.

I make sure to keep some mana for Low pro if stuff goes bad so my allies can finish them during 7s... Or if there are too many enemies, I'll just go in SotW and enjoy the battle for 20s while everyone is getting killed around me.. Yeeppeeeeeeeee.

With hunters it depends but it's mostly easy for the Marks, and I don't use Confuse.

Don't fool yourself. Some classes are overpowered. I know 'cause I play 5 out of 6 (2 lv 50, 1 lv 48, 1 lv 45 and 1 low 40).

I had the same experience with my Hunter but on a lesser scale since I didn't kill level 50 so easily... but with hunters you don't care, you camou and go kill lower levels or people with 10% hps (better if they're resting, it might be troublesome if they start attacking back!).

What you claim does not invalidate the statement 1st posted.

It may happen that you are the best player that has ever played this game, thus being merely unbeatable with whichever class you choose to play.

OR

It may happen that you are a best player then the adversaries you found...

OR

(I don't remember anything else interesting to say about this)

Now, Marks VS Barb, both lvl 50 it's 50% for each when well played... actually goes more for barb side if Marks cast DS first and think that can regain range with escapist running through the Barb (I experienced this 1st hand, and saw it happen, and got similar opinions from marks 50). Of course that if a Marks resist/evade a particular move he gets the upper hand but the good thing about barbs is... 1000+ normal dmg... when not evaded. I've personally seen a Marks 50 getting beaten repeatedly by a Barb 6 lvls below at the Arena... naturally the set used by the Marks wasn't the best for the situation and after it was corrected he was able to take the Barb out.

Marks Vs Knights, I was 8 lvls below and *naturally* I lost, but nor before taking the marks down to 1/4 below hp. On the other hand a lvl after I was able to beat a lvl 50 marks without full hp (it was his call not mine!) on something pretty much like pvp (I was running after him and when he got enough distance he casted the defenses and tried to regain range running through me... bad call). But more often then I wished I get "You killed /yourself" after an ethereal...

Marks Vs Mages I have no idea.

Marks Vs Hunters... short fast for the start and short medium to finish, naturally the hunter will need to leave the camu "inside" him or else he will be utterly pawned, never had (much) problems with them as long as they had the same lvl as me (but yes, I died enough times... well not quite, I ran before dying)... the worst is... now there aren't much of them on WZ below 50...

But yes, Marks are a very good class... specially because they kill me often!

Well, back to grinding.

[fluffy_muffin]

Originally Posted by magnet

but with hunters you don't care, you camou and go kill lower levels or people with 10% hps (better if they're resting, it might be troublesome if they start attacking back!).

This is all you can do with your hunter?

[Static_Fang]

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

Those who are wise in tactics shape how we see classes as overpowered or underpowered....

Yup, i can almost kill most lvl 50 warlocks (DM excluded), only being lvl 43 ^^
Some classes have strong and weak points, like the Marks Etherel Arrow against a mage takes away the advantage of energy barrier...doesnt make them overpowers...
When warlocks get hurt, we can steal ypur hp, so its like u did damage to urself, not overpowered, just a strong point...
ect...