Passive vs. Active skills

Gideon_Slack · 10-08-2008, 02:03 AM

What is the general thinking on the value of passive vs. active skills?

For example, in tthe Archer evasion tree there is the active Dodge skill, and the passive Cat Reflexes . Both effect evasion chances: Dodge with a great percentage over a short period, and Cat Reflexes with a smaller, but constant boost.

Is it generally better to put points into the passive skills -- or go for a big temporary boost from active ones?

Hydroxidee · 10-08-2008, 02:06 AM

It is generally better to put points into passive skills imo and then into buffs becuz passive is always there. buffs not so much.

Comp · 10-08-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gideon_Slack

What is the general thinking on the value of passive vs. active skills?

For example, in tthe Archer evasion tree there is the active Dodge skill, and the passive Cat Reflexes . Both effect evasion chances: Dodge with a great percentage over a short period, and Cat Reflexes with a smaller, but constant boost.

Is it generally better to put points into the passive skills -- or go for a big temporary boost from active ones?

From an archer....here's what I think....

Dodge = Awesome skill and I keep mine at level 3...could not survive without it

Cat Reflexes = I wouldn't put points in this if my life depended on it...it doesn't seem to work and base evasions are too "willie-nillie"

You really need to make the judgement call on yourself...on on the test server and configure the passive and actives to find out which one is best.

RegnumIrae · 10-08-2008, 08:30 AM

Mmm...

Dodge gives u 25% of evading a skill/attack. The passive adds a 15% of evasion to ur base evasion. If u'd have 100 evasion points (impossible, but just an example), the passive would give u +15 evasion points (cos of the +15% evasion

), so u'd have 115 evasion points. Its much useful that 25% than the 115 evasion points.

The same happens with precise block and the block passive.. the block passive adds u +30% block points (if I use a +50 block shield, just get the 30% of 50 and those points will be added

), and precise block gives u 30% chances to block an attack/skill. So is much useful precise block.

Nice passives are, for example, the damage passive for the barb (+15% dmg), the dmg resistance passives in the warriors' weapons tree, etc etc.

Cu

Anpu · 10-08-2008, 09:59 AM

I d go for active skills and let passives be lvl 1, just to "be there". It costs mana, but better results.

Mattdoesrock · 10-08-2008, 11:36 AM

Passive skills don't cost mana, they don;t have a duration and they can;t be mind squashed, remember that.

But!! You can only rely on them so much. It all depends on the passive. In general active skills will be more useful; they'll be your key defenses / offensives, but passives, IMO, make up the backbone of your player.

backe · 10-08-2008, 02:35 PM

I agree with Anpu on this one. Passives are great for leveling because they make you more mana stable, but they lack flexibility and are typically weaker than actives. Usually, the only passives I put extra points in are the ones that modify a characters primary attribute.

10-08-2008, 02:03 AM	#1
Gideon_Slack Master Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 264	Passive vs. Active skills What is the general thinking on the value of passive vs. active skills? For example, in tthe Archer evasion tree there is the active Dodge skill, and the passive Cat Reflexes . Both effect evasion chances: Dodge with a great percentage over a short period, and Cat Reflexes with a smaller, but constant boost. Is it generally better to put points into the passive skills -- or go for a big temporary boost from active ones? __________________ Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology

10-08-2008, 09:59 AM	#5
Anpu Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,186	I d go for active skills and let passives be lvl 1, just to "be there". It costs mana, but better results. __________________ Inquisition

10-08-2008, 11:36 AM	#6
Mattdoesrock Count Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, UK. Posts: 1,055	Passive skills don't cost mana, they don;t have a duration and they can;t be mind squashed, remember that. But!! You can only rely on them so much. It all depends on the passive. In general active skills will be more useful; they'll be your key defenses / offensives, but passives, IMO, make up the backbone of your player. __________________ MattdoesJOKE_#40_NOT_FOUND RA / Hor... Haven?

10-08-2008, 02:06 AM	#2
Hydroxidee Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 161	It is generally better to put points into passive skills imo and then into buffs becuz passive is always there. buffs not so much.

10-08-2008, 08:30 AM	#4
RegnumIrae Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,146	Mmm... Dodge gives u 25% of evading a skill/attack. The passive adds a 15% of evasion to ur base evasion. If u'd have 100 evasion points (impossible, but just an example), the passive would give u +15 evasion points (cos of the +15% evasion ), so u'd have 115 evasion points. Its much useful that 25% than the 115 evasion points. The same happens with precise block and the block passive.. the block passive adds u +30% block points (if I use a +50 block shield, just get the 30% of 50 and those points will be added ), and precise block gives u 30% chances to block an attack/skill. So is much useful precise block. Nice passives are, for example, the damage passive for the barb (+15% dmg), the dmg resistance passives in the warriors' weapons tree, etc etc. Cu

10-08-2008, 02:35 PM	#7
backe Initiate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 222	I agree with Anpu on this one. Passives are great for leveling because they make you more mana stable, but they lack flexibility and are typically weaker than actives. Usually, the only passives I put extra points in are the ones that modify a characters primary attribute.