An Observation

[Inkster]

Ok to open this thread id like to start with the following

The Inn A place to gather around and chat about any subject

I would like to open the following discussion in that case

It seems that we have a new moderator on the forums.
Although gamemod has been around as a name for a while now,
previously it was Kailer before his name was announced.

Although it is a good thing that the forums are moderated,
I personally think that the person using the gamemod name
is been rather over zealous in his job, indeed earlier today
an innocent post and as far as I can read a sensible discussion
on the new moderator was closed with a very abrupt message from the
moderator in question. Not only could this be deemed as rude, but also
very inpersonal to the client-base of NGD studios and also rather
counter-productive to their business on a whole.

I am sure this will get either deleted or closed in a short period of time
but I feel it needed to be said. What are your opinions on this.

(Don't turn this in to a slander or flame thread please guys)

[Mattdoesrock]

Thanks for saying that we were all thinking.

[RegnumIrae]

100% agree.

I dont get his moderation way. In the spanish inn, there's a thread about songs (offensive songs) from Ignis for Alsius and Syrtis (http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=50967). In the first song, it calls Syrtis and Alsius "shit", "cowards", and, if I'm not wrong, "bitches" (not directly).

A few posts after that one, there's one guy with another "song", calling us "hdp" (hijo de puta, "motherfucker"), "puto" ("fucker"), and "cagon" (an offensive way of saying "coward")

What did gamemod do? He closed the post because the thread wasnt breaking any rules, but the incoming answers would (that's what he said).

So.. isnt calling me and my mates motherfucker, bitches, cowards, fuckers, shits, etc offensive? I think it is.

So atm, everybody can see the post, but nobody can defend theirselves.

[Brother-brian]

A while back, 6 mos or so, someone got banned for posting something like basically "some people at NGD seem like people who do have very much intelligence" or something pretty inncuous like that. While others were coming right out and saying all KINDS of cruel, hateful, and quite humorously inventive things about NGD, this is the post that got banned.

Go figure.

Its like calling someones mom a east coast whore, and getting away with it, but getting nerfed for saying that someones mom doesnt bake cookies very well.

[Mattdoesrock]

Originally Posted by Brother-brian

A while back, 6 mos or so, someone got banned for posting something like basically "some people at NGD seem like people who do have very much intelligence" or something pretty inncuous like that.

Actually it was "I am rather considering you as a guy with lower inteligence."

She got a perma ban right off the bat. No previous offenses.

It was lifted later to a month long ban, but still... Christ almighty. Needless to say, NGD lost alot of respect that day.

[Syd_Vicious]

The following is just my recommendation:

1) About Community users

1.1) You can't insult or verbally attack other users using words either in an indirect or direct way.

Remarks: The language of this rule makes it so that people can not be called out for their B.S. I believe rather this statement would apply:

1.1) Inflammatory posts made specifically to attack other users will not be tolerated and will be reported via the “Report Post” tool located below the Username of the posting user.

This language used ensures that comments made to derail a trolling are allowed and not seen as being an attack and identifies the “Post Report” tool in the first rule mentioned.

1.3) It's forbidden to accuse any user of any kind of activity, be it inside the game or in the forums. To report the mentioned cases you must send an email to abuse@ngdstudios.com.ar with proofs and corresponding explanation.

Remarks: Any kind of activity? You want to know about anything we think someone is doing? Very big brother of you. I don't think you want a screeen shot of where some users' heads are. I would recommend:


1.4) It's forbidden to accuse any user of any kind of cheating or bug abuse, be it inside the game or in the forums. To report the mentioned cases you must send an email to abuse@ngdstudios.com.ar with proofs and corresponding explanation.

This boils it down considerably and is similar to the way it was before.

2) About Forum published conten

2.2) You can't send pictures with obscene content that may offend the sensibilities of others or links to pages with content for grown ups.

Remarks: For what country and age do you consider a grown up? Violence and some blood is a common place item for the USA, but are not well received in Europe as far as the “for grown ups” remark is considered. Whereas nudity is acceptable in some countries, yet is seen as Pornographic in the USA. Where is the line drawn?

Recommendation: 2.9) Short posts (two words or less [that is what a poll is for], without any graphical depiction associated) will not be accepted.

4) About Forum sections

4.4) Forum "The Inn" will have all the topics that are not related to Regnum Online or that their content is not relevant to the topic at hand. Every topic fulfilling this description which has been created in any of the other sections will be moved to this forum.

Topics that are not relevant to the topic at hand is somewhat of a contradiction. Maybe: Topics that contain a majority of posts that are off topic will be moved to the Inn.

6) About measures to be applied

The violation or public praise of the violation of any of the points described in this Regulations or sub-regulations will have as a consequence the following measures:

Incidental fault: Notification if the offense seems accidental or incited by another user (other users).

First fault: 2 day account ban
Second fault: 7 day account ban.
Third fault: Permanent account ban.

At least with an Incidental Fault as it applies to the forum would constitute a warning (post, pm, email) that at least lets a user know they have stepped out of line or to get a post back on topic.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

In 5 minutes this thread will probably be just deleted and ignored, just like Edge's last moderation-complaint thread a few minutes ago that probably no one read it.

[UmarilsStillHere]

As I said in the other thread, I dobut this thread will be open for more than an hour (last time I said this it was closed 6 mins later)

Mods, please remember this (the inn at least) is a place to talk about anything and speak freely, preventing the topic here will only push it in game or onto Irc (and the wider puplic eye)

[DkySven]

I agree with Inkster, being too harsh as a moderator can only destroy the community in my humble opinion as moderator myself.

I'd like to quote William Shakepeare's Merchant of Venice:

Originally Posted by Portia, scene I

The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath: it is twice bless’d;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
’Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown;
His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptred sway,
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God’s,
When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,
Though justice be thy plea, consider this,
That in the course of justice none of us
Should see salvation: we do pray for mercy;
And that same prayer, doth teach us all to render
The deeds of mercy.

I do not mean anything with the use of religious terms, it's just about mercy.

[Dannboy]

+1 for the maker of this thread.
I have nothing to say, I just hope that for gods sake that you didnt permaban Edge.
You have made 80% of the good people in this game leave.
You have been building the ini zones, and making eye candy just to get those nasty 8 year olds to come and play, and of course bring their mommys wallets.
You have forgotten about the people that truly enjoy the game. That were in it because of the community.
You dont care about what we say. You dont even reply it, and I doubt that you even read it sometimes.
You have been sparkling everything. Made false promises. Said things that was never done. Taken things from us that were never given back. Not even a placebo.
You are terrible.
When I started in this game I knew that it sucked.
But I gave it a try. I met people. I stayed here for THE people.
THE people leaves because of your ways, and THE people you ban.
So many great players have left, I wont say you dont listen, but you never get anything done.

I was almost crying when I heard that Edge was banned, now those tears have turned into anger.
I have no idea why you did this, and I will never forget this.
You are going low on people that makes me stay in this game.
And I that even considered getting Xim to buy a horse at chirstmas time.

Well, I guess I had something to say afterall.
Good Bye

Cant give you Karma Ink, seems like you have been posting way too much Win lately.