Clarrification on save guard AI and possible abuse

Nekoko · 10-07-2010, 08:08 PM

Okay so I was in game and I've heard from some people that players are getting banned for killing people at the save guard. Now I'd like some clarrification on what is going on.

Looking at another thread in the forums that I won't link to and talking to other players. I've heard a few questions which I will repeat here.

1. Is using rocks to avoid the save guard and kill people at the save a bannable offense?

2. Is out smarting the save guard in anyway a bannable offense?

3. Are we still allowed to attempt to kill people at the save?

4. Are we allowed to kill people at the save if the guard happens to not attack us?

EDIT: Also I'd like to ask that some sticky thread is made to list possible things people can ACCIDENTLY do to get banned. Word of mouth isn't really enough. For example running into the water with a gem is a bannable offense that most people know about but anew player would not.

We really need this stuff listed somewhere obvious so people do not get into trouble when they had no ill intent whatsoever!

Pwnography · 10-07-2010, 08:19 PM

Remove everything that is punishment for save camping. It makes the best fights most the time, and its make a good change to fort war all the time.The option to spawn at the wall is enough if you don't want to be hassled imo.

But in all honesty, being banned for outsmarting an AI is the dumbest thing ive heard.

doppelapfel · 10-07-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighting_Irish

Remove everything that is punishment for save camping. It makes the best fights most the time, and its make a good change to fort war all the time.The option to spawn at the wall is enough if you don't want to be hassled imo.

But in all honesty, being banned for outsmarting an AI is the dumbest thing ive heard.

Agree. Camping and also being camped is fun if campers dont have a too big number compared to those being camped, if this is the case, simply rezz at wall.

Malevolence · 10-07-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by doppelapfel

Agree. Camping and also being camped is fun if campers dont have a too big number compared to those being camped, if this is the case, simply rezz at wall.

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...41&postcount=9

Take away guards and -rp then and I would be happy...How is that?

Darcyeti · 10-08-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by doppelapfel

Agree. Camping and also being camped is fun if campers dont have a too big number compared to those being camped, if this is the case, simply rezz at wall.

I don't mind being camped either, but a great problem while being camped is during "wall is in danger". In that case, there is no option to rezz at wall, so at that times, you'll get camped forever with an outnumberous amount of enemies.

As I mentioned, I've no problem with it, me is so crazy to rush a zerg of enemies all by my self. Dieing can be fun to you know?

(as long as you take at least one enemy with you)

edit: sorry for repeating you vort3x, didn't recognice you having writen nearly the same as me.

Mashu · 10-08-2010, 12:03 PM

I think guards at save are a good thing. Group of enemies sitting and waiting at save to kill someone that just spawned should not be a way to gaining RP in rankings.

Also as previous people mentioned, when gate is in danger its not possible to spawn there anymore and You can't simply play.

But on another hand, if guard is not reacting or its possible to kill it then in any way it does not deserve a ban.

NGD make guards immune or fix them so they react, problem solved.

v0rt3x · 10-08-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fighting_Irish

Remove everything that is punishment for save camping. It makes the best fights most the time, and its make a good change to fort war all the time.The option to spawn at the wall is enough if you don't want to be hassled imo.

No, this is not enough. If the wall is in DANGER, u can´t spawn at the wall!!!

Myxir · 10-08-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by v0rt3x

No, this is not enough. If the wall is in DANGER, u can´t spawn at the wall!!!

If the wall is in danger and the attacking realm camps a save it's a big fail.

mr_scsi · 10-08-2010, 01:38 PM

heres a cool thought, I'd like to see the save guards gone. They are not needed.
Also, nix the -rps. Instead, drop the bar for lvl 50+ for xps, meaning you hit 50, the bar stops
and xp no longer increases. Your done, no need to keep adding to it.

THEN kill someone at the save and its -2000 xp. Yes thats a -2k xp.
Kill 1 person and BANG your lvl 49 again. I think save camping would stop.

Hamster_of_sorrow · 10-08-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_scsi

heres a cool thought, I'd like to see the save guards gone. They are not needed.
Also, nix the -rps. Instead, drop the bar for lvl 50+ for xps, meaning you hit 50, the bar stops
and xp no longer increases. Your done, no need to keep adding to it.

THEN kill someone at the save and its -2000 xp. Yes thats a -2k xp.
Kill 1 person and BANG your lvl 49 again. I think save camping would stop.

hahaha there would be no save camping.. ever.

10-07-2010, 08:08 PM	#1
Nekoko Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 334	Clarrification on save guard AI and possible abuse Okay so I was in game and I've heard from some people that players are getting banned for killing people at the save guard. Now I'd like some clarrification on what is going on. Looking at another thread in the forums that I won't link to and talking to other players. I've heard a few questions which I will repeat here. 1. Is using rocks to avoid the save guard and kill people at the save a bannable offense? 2. Is out smarting the save guard in anyway a bannable offense? 3. Are we still allowed to attempt to kill people at the save? 4. Are we allowed to kill people at the save if the guard happens to not attack us? EDIT: Also I'd like to ask that some sticky thread is made to list possible things people can ACCIDENTLY do to get banned. Word of mouth isn't really enough. For example running into the water with a gem is a bannable offense that most people know about but anew player would not. We really need this stuff listed somewhere obvious so people do not get into trouble when they had no ill intent whatsoever! __________________ A Dream.

10-07-2010, 08:19 PM	#2
Pwnography Initiate Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 195	Remove everything that is punishment for save camping. It makes the best fights most the time, and its make a good change to fort war all the time.The option to spawn at the wall is enough if you don't want to be hassled imo. But in all honesty, being banned for outsmarting an AI is the dumbest thing ive heard.

10-08-2010, 12:03 PM	#6
Mashu Master Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 541	I think guards at save are a good thing. Group of enemies sitting and waiting at save to kill someone that just spawned should not be a way to gaining RP in rankings. Also as previous people mentioned, when gate is in danger its not possible to spawn there anymore and You can't simply play. But on another hand, if guard is not reacting or its possible to kill it then in any way it does not deserve a ban. NGD make guards immune or fix them so they react, problem solved.

10-08-2010, 01:38 PM	#9
mr_scsi Initiate Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Right behind you Posts: 153	heres a cool thought, I'd like to see the save guards gone. They are not needed. Also, nix the -rps. Instead, drop the bar for lvl 50+ for xps, meaning you hit 50, the bar stops and xp no longer increases. Your done, no need to keep adding to it. THEN kill someone at the save and its -2000 xp. Yes thats a -2k xp. Kill 1 person and BANG your lvl 49 again. I think save camping would stop.