Topic on Conji/Hunters using pets to level players

DemonMonger · 02-19-2011, 09:21 PM

We are allowed to click a person and click defend ally.
This allows us to legally assist other players in combat.
This grants us the ability to aide other players in leveling/hunting

Why are so many of you angry about this feature?

bois · 02-19-2011, 10:41 PM

I believe it is a fair tactic and I never had issue with it. In any case it does not matter that much in my view because you will either use it to attack me on your behalf or send it to attack me as an assist to your ally.
Looks fair to me.

DemonMonger · 02-19-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bois

I believe it is a fair tactic and I never had issue with it. In any case it does not matter that much in my view because you will either use it to attack me on your behalf or send it to attack me as an assist to your ally.
Looks fair to me.

Thanks for participating

VandaMan · 02-19-2011, 11:06 PM

This thread and poll is intentionally misleading. The real issue is that since a recent update, pets no longer take xp by doing damage. a level 50 pet, defending a level 1 player can kill high level mobs, and take the character through 10 levels in 10 minutes. I'll keep my opinion on the matter to myself, but the results of an intentionally misleading poll are useless.

Gigantic-knight · 02-19-2011, 11:31 PM

it is power leveling and it shouldn't be allowed. although in my opinion there is nothing wrong with the conj summons because they have a certain limit of duration. but a warlock who posses a conju's summon and assists a ally and just go afk is certainly not an intended game mechanic. the same for hunter's pets. you could give a lvling knight support from 3 zarkits.. and let him just go grind it's right if the other characters have to be online. (if it comes from warlocks it's wrong because their possed sommons dont have a duration)

ice_zero_cool · 02-20-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gigantic-knight

(if it comes from warlocks it's wrong because their possed sommons dont have a duration)

warlocks dont have a pet bar afaik

time-to-die · 02-22-2011, 08:14 PM

no - it's an option in the pet menu

doppelapfel · 02-22-2011, 08:57 PM

Using the assistoption is obviously no bug. Using it in a way that you dont gain ep for dealing dmg on mobs is a bug.

DemonMonger · 02-23-2011, 06:37 AM

Pets cannot give hunter xp in defend ally mode or hunters can go afk and gain xp. Pets themslves do no alter the loss of xp or give credit to the hunter for attacking in groups. This safeguard is what allows hunters to use pets to "support" other classes in gaining xp and combat. The hunter only gets credit for direct action that he/she does in battle.

_Seinvan · 02-23-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DemonMonger

The hunter only gets credit for direct action that he/she does in battle.

And this obviously needs to change, so that Pets and/or Summons can be used to group grind. You say they can go AFK and gain exp, but it will be minimal exp, and eventually you get logged off after no interaction with the game for some time.

Van said this is not the way it was before, and this was not mentioned in the changelog, and therefore it should be a bug.

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Originally Posted by cugel

It's obviously exploiting a bug if you're bypassing the 10% rule and getting more XP than the amount your damage would normally get you.

That too. If you don't deal 10% of the mobs total health (in damage), then you shouldn't get EXP. Let alone FULL exp.

View Poll Results: Do think players using pets to assist others is a bug?
yes - it's not fair	10	11.49%
no - it's an option in the pet menu	77	88.51%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

02-19-2011, 09:21 PM	#1
DemonMonger Marquis Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edge of the Abyss Posts: 2,066	Topic on Conji/Hunters using pets to level players We are allowed to click a person and click defend ally. This allows us to legally assist other players in combat. This grants us the ability to aide other players in leveling/hunting Why are so many of you angry about this feature?

02-19-2011, 11:31 PM	#5
Gigantic-knight Pledge Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 18	it is power leveling and it shouldn't be allowed. although in my opinion there is nothing wrong with the conj summons because they have a certain limit of duration. but a warlock who posses a conju's summon and assists a ally and just go afk is certainly not an intended game mechanic. the same for hunter's pets. you could give a lvling knight support from 3 zarkits.. and let him just go grind it's right if the other characters have to be online. (if it comes from warlocks it's wrong because their possed sommons dont have a duration) __________________ B A R B A R O S S A --> Sir-barb (Tyr) --> Horus --> Ignis (barb lvl 50) Gigantic knight --> Horus --> Ignis (Knight lvl 50) The Banished Templar --> Horus --> Ignis (Barb lvl 36)

02-19-2011, 10:41 PM	#2
bois Count Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 1,194	I believe it is a fair tactic and I never had issue with it. In any case it does not matter that much in my view because you will either use it to attack me on your behalf or send it to attack me as an assist to your ally. Looks fair to me.

02-19-2011, 11:06 PM	#4
VandaMan Baron Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 747	This thread and poll is intentionally misleading. The real issue is that since a recent update, pets no longer take xp by doing damage. a level 50 pet, defending a level 1 player can kill high level mobs, and take the character through 10 levels in 10 minutes. I'll keep my opinion on the matter to myself, but the results of an intentionally misleading poll are useless.

02-22-2011, 08:14 PM	#7
time-to-die Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The netherlands Posts: 722	no - it's an option in the pet menu

02-22-2011, 08:57 PM	#8
doppelapfel Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 715	Using the assistoption is obviously no bug. Using it in a way that you dont gain ep for dealing dmg on mobs is a bug.

02-23-2011, 06:37 AM	#9
DemonMonger Marquis Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edge of the Abyss Posts: 2,066	Pets cannot give hunter xp in defend ally mode or hunters can go afk and gain xp. Pets themslves do no alter the loss of xp or give credit to the hunter for attacking in groups. This safeguard is what allows hunters to use pets to "support" other classes in gaining xp and combat. The hunter only gets credit for direct action that he/she does in battle.