Anti-ACTA in Poland

Lekarz · 01-22-2012, 11:37 AM

Well, since yesterday in polish Internet we have action. Most sites of polish government and people / organisations which agree to sign ACTA ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Co...rade_Agreement ) were down, by people using DDoS attacks to protect us from this censorship. Anonymous started it.

First target has been achieved, people know what our government tried to sign.
Till 26th January there will be action (they when they would sign it). I don't know what foreign mainstream media tell about it, maybe they are silent or change meaning of this what happen.
If they sign it there will be nothing, you may be able to block every site you want if you find illegal files / links on it. There will be no medicines which are substitute of original ones. Forget about substitute parts to your cars, they will be only original and obviously expensive. Want to find a rare book? Forget. No copies allowed. Say good bye to Wikipedia, Google, Youtube as you know. Internet providers will control what you upload and download, privacy? Never.

I made this tread to let you know about it. Greetings.

71175 · 01-22-2012, 12:04 PM

Ehem. 2012 year can be called years of copyright and it's fails indeed

Psynocide · 01-23-2012, 09:09 PM

ACTA? Is that like SOPA or PIPA?

..Fucking acronyms man.

Vaylos · 01-24-2012, 11:54 PM

Just finished reading the wiki page. In some ways I think it sounds worse than SOPA/PIPA. >_<

ACTA anti-counterfeiting trade agreement
PIPA Protect IP Act
SOPA Stop Online Piracy Act

Problem is these bills/agreements/acts/whatever so sooooo broad in scope that they really hinder the advancement of tech, free speech/expression, and ACTA would probably seriously hinder the free and open-source software concept with being unable to run paid-for DRM based media on free players/etc.

"The FSF also argues that ACTA will make it harder for users of free operating systems to play non-free media because DRM protected media would not be legally playable with free software."

It's a real mess. I joined the SOPA/PIPA protest and set my site to go dark back on the 18th. (I don't get many visitors, but I do get a few hits/day) I would encourage anyone who is a proponent of open source and the advancement and innovation of technology to do the same. Fight/protest against these bills. They're no good for anyone except the media lobbyists like the MPAA/RIAA.

Online piracy, counterfeit, copyright infringements, etc. need to be fought and need a solution (hey, I don't like to see music software costing $500+ USD anymore than another musician), but this is not the way to go. These bills are too much of a broad, blanketing, heavy-handed/draconian way of managing the problem.

Also, while ACTA is bad, look at the TPP. It's practially ACTA on steroids.
Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement (TPP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-P...ic_Partnership

Cuchulainn · 01-27-2012, 10:19 PM

So the ACTA treaty is signed, and the EU parliament didn't even discuss it

The rapporteur of the EU parliament Kader Arif resigned, because of the undemocratic process how the treaty was signed. It's sad that all or almost the whole mainstream media doesn't mention this resign of Kader Arif and his reasons. It would be worth reporting...

European Parliament Official In Charge Of ACTA Quits, And Denounces The 'Masquerade' Behind ACTA
(french source: ACTA : démissionnaire, Kader Arif dénonce "une mascarade")

oh and here is a avaaz petition.

Seher · 01-28-2012, 12:48 AM

Media reporting starts, slowly. Some German magazines had articles about it today, some even polemic and quite funny to read. No major shit storm yet though, I hope there's more about to happen.

I like Poland, by the way.

The awesomeness in those images is incredible, we need that in Germany. (Sadly never gonna happen)

01-22-2012, 11:37 AM	#1
Lekarz Master Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 285	Anti-ACTA in Poland Well, since yesterday in polish Internet we have action. Most sites of polish government and people / organisations which agree to sign ACTA ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Co...rade_Agreement ) were down, by people using DDoS attacks to protect us from this censorship. Anonymous started it. First target has been achieved, people know what our government tried to sign. Till 26th January there will be action (they when they would sign it). I don't know what foreign mainstream media tell about it, maybe they are silent or change meaning of this what happen. If they sign it there will be nothing, you may be able to block every site you want if you find illegal files / links on it. There will be no medicines which are substitute of original ones. Forget about substitute parts to your cars, they will be only original and obviously expensive. Want to find a rare book? Forget. No copies allowed. Say good bye to Wikipedia, Google, Youtube as you know. Internet providers will control what you upload and download, privacy? Never. I made this tread to let you know about it. Greetings.

01-22-2012, 12:04 PM	#2
71175 Baron Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Feeding@ Farmal :P Posts: 714	Ehem. 2012 year can be called years of copyright and it's fails indeed __________________ I heard draconic gem makes people stupid. Now i see it is exactly so. lol fail \ iFail \ I Am Multirealmer Good bye RO, the poor players.... have fun

01-23-2012, 09:09 PM	#3
Psynocide Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Here & There Posts: 439	ACTA? Is that like SOPA or PIPA? ..Fucking acronyms man. __________________ *Psy* Dizzy thumbs, itchy fingers

01-24-2012, 11:54 PM	#4
Vaylos Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Coralville, IA Posts: 202	Just finished reading the wiki page. In some ways I think it sounds worse than SOPA/PIPA. >_< ACTA anti-counterfeiting trade agreement PIPA Protect IP Act SOPA Stop Online Piracy Act Problem is these bills/agreements/acts/whatever so sooooo broad in scope that they really hinder the advancement of tech, free speech/expression, and ACTA would probably seriously hinder the free and open-source software concept with being unable to run paid-for DRM based media on free players/etc. "The FSF also argues that ACTA will make it harder for users of free operating systems to play non-free media because DRM protected media would not be legally playable with free software." It's a real mess. I joined the SOPA/PIPA protest and set my site to go dark back on the 18th. (I don't get many visitors, but I do get a few hits/day) I would encourage anyone who is a proponent of open source and the advancement and innovation of technology to do the same. Fight/protest against these bills. They're no good for anyone except the media lobbyists like the MPAA/RIAA. Online piracy, counterfeit, copyright infringements, etc. need to be fought and need a solution (hey, I don't like to see music software costing $500+ USD anymore than another musician), but this is not the way to go. These bills are too much of a broad, blanketing, heavy-handed/draconian way of managing the problem. Also, while ACTA is bad, look at the TPP. It's practially ACTA on steroids. Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement (TPP) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-P...ic_Partnership Last edited by Vaylos; 01-25-2012 at 12:23 AM.

01-28-2012, 12:48 AM	#6
Seher Count Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,026	Media reporting starts, slowly. Some German magazines had articles about it today, some even polemic and quite funny to read. No major shit storm yet though, I hope there's more about to happen. I like Poland, by the way. The awesomeness in those images is incredible, we need that in Germany. (Sadly never gonna happen) __________________ Winning a fight doesn't make you a good player, having fun losing one does. DISCORD!

01-27-2012, 10:19 PM	#5
Cuchulainn Master Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 303	So the ACTA treaty is signed, and the EU parliament didn't even discuss it The rapporteur of the EU parliament Kader Arif resigned, because of the undemocratic process how the treaty was signed. It's sad that all or almost the whole mainstream media doesn't mention this resign of Kader Arif and his reasons. It would be worth reporting... European Parliament Official In Charge Of ACTA Quits, And Denounces The 'Masquerade' Behind ACTA (french source: ACTA : démissionnaire, Kader Arif dénonce "une mascarade") oh and here is a avaaz petition.