Strange things happen on Horus lately

[Freeverse]

Hi Friends

I play on Horus since many months – my main char is a lvl 60 hunter – and always enjoyed the pvp, no matter if i was the winner or the victim.

However in the last few weeks i was witness of some very strange incidents with players of Ignis in the main role. Before i accuse anyone of cheating i would like to tell you about three annoying encounters. Maybe you guys have a logical and racionalistic explanation for it.

Situation no.1
Me and another lvl 60 hunter surprised a lvl 60 barb on his way to Meni. We shoot him off his mount, so he had no time to buff. After that he killed both of us with over 4000-dmg normal hits.
A bit strange, isn’t it?
Sure, I know, that some combinations like: Berserk + Fulmination + Brutal Impact can cause very big amounts of dmg, but i repeat: the barb used not even a single buff.

Situation no.2
I revealed a hidden hunter of Ignis. He began to run away and after 5 sec he used camouflage again, while running, in just 0.5 sec. For those, who don’t know: the normal casting time of camo is 4.5 sec and it can not be used while moving.
Really nice new trick..

Situation no.3
Again, i was hunting with a companion in Ignis. We met a well known conju. I used distracted shot (5), did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec (normal time of ds – 15 sec). A few moments later the other hunter used ds again, with the same result – he did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec.

I’m hunting since a long, long time, but never experienced things like that before, but maybe some of you can save me from my ignorance.
So – any comments?

[_Kharbon_]

Originally Posted by Freeverse

Situation no.1
Me and another lvl 60 hunter surprised a lvl 60 barb on his way to Meni. We shoot him off his mount, so he had no time to buff. After that he killed both of us with over 4000-dmg normal hits.
A bit strange, isn’t it?
Sure, I know, that some combinations like: Berserk + Fulmination + Brutal Impact can cause very big amounts of dmg, but i repeat: the barb used not even a single buff.

Well, i have no explanation for this. 4k hits just don't happen. Do you have screens?

Originally Posted by Freeverse

Situation no.2
I revealed a hidden hunter of Ignis. He began to run away and after 5 sec he used camouflage again, while running, in just 0.5 sec. For those, who don’t know: the normal casting time of camo is 4.5 sec and it can not be used while moving.
Really nice new trick..

If you reveal a camoed hunter, the efect of camouflage does NOT cancel, it is just interrupted for certain time and the hunter can be attacked. This means that after the duration of reveal spell, the camo resumes and the hunter is invisible again (even if you attack him).

Note, this is possible only if the revealed hunter didn't cast any spells/didn't attack you. Attacking or buffing cancels the reveal effect.

Originally Posted by Freeverse

Situation no.3
Again, i was hunting with a companion in Ignis. We met a well known conju. I used distracted shot (5), did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec (normal time of ds – 15 sec). A few moments later the other hunter used ds again, with the same result – he did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec.

Well, it is possible, that your hunting partner (or yourself?) accidentaly attacked the conju or used spell on him after he was distracted. This would mean the distraction effect is cancelled. The same happens if an aggro mob attacks him, or he's under the effect of dot (not completely sure about this though).
Although he could be under some defensive spell (mindblank, beacon...) that prevent the distraction effect, although in your log it shows successful

I hope this cleared things up

[Freeverse]

Originally Posted by _Kharbon_

If you reveal a camoed hunter, the efect of camouflage does NOT cancel, it is just interrupted for certain time and the hunter can be attacked. This means that after the duration of reveal spell, the camo resumes and the hunter is invisible again (even if you attack him).

Note, this is possible only if the revealed hunter didn't cast any spells/didn't attack you. Attacking or buffing cancels the reveal effect.

In this special case, the camo-effect was interrupted when the hunter used one of his protective spells after he was revealed (most likely escapist or son of the wind). And he was without any doubt using camo again very fast. Definitely too fast.

[tarashunter]

No way,he was not casting buff if returned camo.
As told here:an hunter revealed,if not buff up himself,return camo after 20 sec (i suppose you used reveal 1,this is why you should use reveal 3,we have many power point to waste at lvl 60).

Or he should have casted stalker after camo(but it have long cast time).

If oyu told he buffed up...mmmh...i can't explain it.

Also,have some screenshot of 4000 dmg from 1 hit of barb,would be an epic pics...strange you have no pics.
If you have,post them pls,or send them by ticket at NGD support.

@kharbon: DoT does not dispell the stun effect (i mean,every existent stun actually in game,get not vanished if victim is sufferin any kind of DoT).

The mage should have resisted both the distract.
You told he was a conju.
Conjurer have a skill called mind blank(i think) that increase their resist of 40% against stun knock and don't remember what else.

Apart the barbarian 4khit,nothing strange for the rest.
If your description is right in all 3 the case,report the players to NGD and next time try to make some screenshot,cause it would help(in the barbarian case).

[Rising_Cold]

Originally Posted by tarashunter

The mage should have resisted both the distract.
You told he was a conju.
Conjurer have a skill called mind blank(i think) that increase their resist of 40% against stun knock and don't remember what else.

No it should not have been resisted. I play conj a lot (ofc with mind blank)
The spells do hit, I will see them as debuffs, but the stuns/freeze/dizzy
do not affect me. There will be those blue things around the head or the
whole freeze at me, but I can still walk around, if I want dispell it and all is solved

[_Kharbon_]

Originally Posted by Freeverse

In this special case, the camo-effect was interrupted when the hunter used one of his protective spells after he was revealed (most likely escapist or son of the wind). And he was without any doubt using camo again very fast. Definitely too fast.

Well, this could be blamed on positioning system, lag, bugs, disconnection etc...

Next time take screenshots or even better video, and report the players suing the ticket system...

I never heard of these situations before, so it might be some misunderstanding/bug rather than cheating...

To the first situation, i know a ignean player that posted some screens with modified gems, that could enable him dealing such damage.. No idea if it really happened though...

[SilverHaven]

Originally Posted by Freeverse

Hi Friends

I play on Horus since many months – my main char is a lvl 60 hunter – and always enjoyed the pvp, no matter if i was the winner or the victim.

However in the last few weeks i was witness of some very strange incidents with players of Ignis in the main role. Before i accuse anyone of cheating i would like to tell you about three annoying encounters. Maybe you guys have a logical and racionalistic explanation for it.

Situation no.1
Me and another lvl 60 hunter surprised a lvl 60 barb on his way to Meni. We shoot him off his mount, so he had no time to buff. After that he killed both of us with over 4000-dmg normal hits.
A bit strange, isn’t it?
Sure, I know, that some combinations like: Berserk + Fulmination + Brutal Impact can cause very big amounts of dmg, but i repeat: the barb used not even a single buff.


Hits from unbuffed barb are patheticly low, can be like 700, 800 which gets reduced by armor and bufs to hits of few hundreds maybe, definitely not 4k.


Situation no.2
I revealed a hidden hunter of Ignis. He began to run away and after 5 sec he used camouflage again, while running, in just 0.5 sec. For those, who don’t know: the normal casting time of camo is 4.5 sec and it can not be used while moving.
Really nice new trick..

No idea here ...

Situation no.3
Again, i was hunting with a companion in Ignis. We met a well known conju. I used distracted shot (5), did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec (normal time of ds – 15 sec). A few moments later the other hunter used ds again, with the same result – he did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec.

You sure he got stunned? It could've said 'success', but he could resist the spell effect because of having Mind Blank active and distshot animation vanishes with a delay.

I’m hunting since a long, long time, but never experienced things like that before, but maybe some of you can save me from my ignorance.
So – any comments?

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Edit: had the topic open for too long time, seems someone already answered "D

[Tigerious]

When this happened?
I see lack of informations there, any names / screenshot ?
Even if a barb is buffed, it's actually not possible to do a 4k+ damages hit with self buffs.

[Freeverse]

Originally Posted by Tigerious

When this happened?
I see lack of informations there, any names / screenshot ?
Even if a barb is buffed, it's actually not possible to do a 4k+ damages hit with self buffs.

All described situations took place during the last 7-8 days.
I used no names, cause i don't want to discredit anybody as long as i'm not 100% sure what's going on. This wasn't mean to be a denunciation, i just wonder how such things can happen.

Kharbons opinion about the ds could theoretically be an explanation, although i'm pretty sure, none of use disturbed the effect with any attack.

But the 0.5sec-camo-casting still looks like a miracle too me.
Also i never saw 4000 dmg hits before.

[EMIN]

Originally Posted by Freeverse

Hi Friends

I play on Horus since many months – my main char is a lvl 60 hunter – and always enjoyed the pvp, no matter if i was the winner or the victim.

However in the last few weeks i was witness of some very strange incidents with players of Ignis in the main role. Before i accuse anyone of cheating i would like to tell you about three annoying encounters. Maybe you guys have a logical and racionalistic explanation for it.

Situation no.1
Me and another lvl 60 hunter surprised a lvl 60 barb on his way to Meni. We shoot him off his mount, so he had no time to buff. After that he killed both of us with over 4000-dmg normal hits.
A bit strange, isn’t it?
Sure, I know, that some combinations like: Berserk + Fulmination + Brutal Impact can cause very big amounts of dmg, but i repeat: the barb used not even a single buff.

Situation no.2
I revealed a hidden hunter of Ignis. He began to run away and after 5 sec he used camouflage again, while running, in just 0.5 sec. For those, who don’t know: the normal casting time of camo is 4.5 sec and it can not be used while moving.
Really nice new trick..

Situation no.3
Again, i was hunting with a companion in Ignis. We met a well known conju. I used distracted shot (5), did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec (normal time of ds – 15 sec). A few moments later the other hunter used ds again, with the same result – he did not miss, but the effect vanished after 2 sec.

I’m hunting since a long, long time, but never experienced things like that before, but maybe some of you can save me from my ignorance.
So – any comments?

First of all, to make people believe you, you need to say the names and give some screens. Secondly, Kharbon, about reveal.. yes camo does not cancel but the hunter doesnt go in camo after 0.5sec as Freeverse says. Well yeah, he may didnt calculate the time passed right . As for the barb hitting 4k norms unbuffed.. maybe his buffs were invisible(visual bug-happens many times) but I still think that 4k norms are way too much
Anyway, you need to give us more information