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Raindance · 12-28-2011, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ieti

Still I salute Спектр for not doing hardcore mayhem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lekarz

If Спектр would destroy game like aggresive hacker Спектр would give away items from boxes and kill ingame market.

Pssh yeah t'was just a couple o' dem trees anyways, nothing to worry about. Well Спектр I'll be waiting for more goodies in the future.

Salute <o/

Raghn · 12-28-2011, 12:24 PM

IDK ....

I'm discouraged every game update, the lack of NGD professionalism, to use the main server as alpha release (ngd has a checklist before update?), introducing many new bugs, not fixed old bugs, trying to improve one or two things and worse 5 or 6 things that were good...

I see total lack of quality, bugs happens, nobody's perfect, but I as a consumer, I see the lack of preparation by the person who leads the way things go in the NGD...

I'm sad, cause RO is a really good "product", and by the way, I presume the CEO doesn't see the real potential of the RO...

IDK how complex is the RO source code, but one thing is clear, the problems add up with the current stance...

NGD know that Horus is like a ghost server today, the factor isn't the new servers, is the low quality, players tired of seeing this attitude, thinking whether should be or not spend money in the RO...

Open mind, lots of good players, they know what they say, use what they say for the benefit of the game. I could mention many names of players impartial in their analysis, just thinking in a better game to play. for eg: beacons, offensive beacon broke the game, and other things are not reviewed before new updates. Bonus exp is not the way, the way is fix the bugs to keep your customers, be honest...

I hope that the NGD see this post and take constructive criticism, and really think "what we're doing wrong", and I hope it becomes playable again... I'm sure it ngd didn't follow the 'slow science way' before implementing the WM expansion...

thks

Thanus · 12-28-2011, 01:11 PM

From Realms Online Forum :

For those having combat log problem
Please try this procedures:

1. Make sure your combat log is on the same window with realm,commerce,clan and general window.
2. Re-log (go back to char selection page)
3. You should be able to have a scrolling combat log after you re-log, you can also press "L" in game to put the combat log in new window for easy access but make sure to always follow step number 1 before you exit the game.

chilko · 12-28-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cnekmp_

When will you stop hiding the truth? You knew about existence of critical issues from October 2011. I was reading all these posts and the blames against me. But your words placed the end point and I want to share with others what happened in reality:

the Ximerin exploit was a bug and was abused by many users, I never accused you of being responsible for this (although apparently you where one of the people who abused it the most). People didn't have to be hackers to abuse this. it was an obvious bug.

We do registered some hacking attempts a month or so ago, according to our logs those where not successful. we did not relate those attempts to you either (we didn't connect the dots)

when you approached me a couple of months ago, you demanded payment after supposedly finding exploits in the game (which is ilegal) and sounds too much like a threat.

finally, you sent us a support ticket, demanding your ban to be lifted before 31st of december, or else...

ok, that's the REAL story so far.

tjanex · 12-28-2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilko

the Ximerin exploit was a bug and was abused by many users, I never accused you of being responsible for this (although apparently you where one of the people who abused it the most). People didn't have to be hackers to abuse this. it was an obvious bug.

We do registered some hacking attempts a month or so ago, according to our logs those where not successful. we did not relate those attempts to you either (we didn't connect the dots)

when you approached me a couple of months ago, you demanded payment after supposedly finding exploits in the game (which is ilegal) and sounds too much like a threat.

finally, you sent us a support ticket, demanding your ban to be lifted before 31st of december, or else...

ok, that's the REAL story so far.

Nice that you tell us the truth

Archonaut · 12-28-2011, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilko

the Ximerin exploit was a bug and was abused by many users, I never accused you of being responsible for this (although apparently you where one of the people who abused it the most). People didn't have to be hackers to abuse this. it was an obvious bug.

We do registered some hacking attempts a month or so ago, according to our logs those where not successful. we did not relate those attempts to you either (we didn't connect the dots)

when you approached me a couple of months ago, you demanded payment after supposedly finding exploits in the game (which is ilegal) and sounds too much like a threat.

finally, you sent us a support ticket, demanding your ban to be lifted before 31st of december, or else...

ok, that's the REAL story so far.

Lol I knew he wasn't telling the truth, like I though..

ieti · 12-28-2011, 02:12 PM

Guys report all you find, fix - case closed.

As far as i know whole RO protocol is unencrypted. Everyone can get Wire Shark and start to sniff and see what happens. You just need time and coffee to convert all this into something.

Authentication to server is made by MD5 hash which is easy to crack using modern crackers(hashkill and others) and GPU's.

There is no ideal software and every devel makes mistakes no matter how good he is. There are many factors - deadlines, stress, IRL issues... If you like the product you can be grateful by helping devels with finding in fixing critical issues.

@Спектр if you do not let it go - someone will find too sooner or later. (И пошли все нахуй.

)

71175 · 12-28-2011, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ieti

@Спектр if you do not let it go - someone will find too sooner or later. (И пошли все нахуй.

)

+1
Sweet Russian.

OpperVaagheid · 12-28-2011, 02:32 PM

Mmmm maybe the solution is much easier.

Cne.. you wanted money probably. You got free xim by using the bug. Why not tell NGD now whats wrong.

YOu tell them whats wrong, ngd don't ban you for that and let you keep the stuff you got from it.

You have your payment and NGD can solve there problem?

Warthog · 12-28-2011, 02:51 PM

For the sake of the game which I have spent years with (though not so much recently) an still love to play given the time. I hope what was done can be safely undone without too much harm to the companies employee's. Some of us seem to forget that while this game might be your guys dream but it is not your life. For it to be destroyed through people trying to cheat or prove a point or whatever they want to call it would not only take away a stress release and enjoyment for us players but would put you guys an your families in jeapordy.

I am also glad to hear you will be rethinking how you work your updates. For the past year or so it seems many things have been rushed. Probably do to multiple reasons, whiners constantly on forum/PMs/ticket system saying you need this or that done, outside influences from Gamgio/gamesamba, and even a want on your end to try to keep the game up to par with competition. Try to find some time to put some serious look into many of the major and minor bug issues there are an get them fixed before pushing forward with content.

An please don't let this horrible set of circumstances let it take this game away from us. Personally, I still have the fear that cause of all this and your current success with other projects that RO might just up an vanish after your current contracts/agreements with Gamigo and Gamesamba end. This would be a true shame if it ever did happen.

Most of us do understand that due to the size and lack of funding compared to most of the other major game producing studios things will not be able to change over-night. In terms of manpower hours alone I am sure other studios can prolly in a day put in the collective amount of man power hours it takes you guys weeks to put into this game. So try to find a happy medium to use your time more wisely. For now IMO most focus should go to bug fixing, something that has been done only in the backround for too long while other content was brought along. Hopefully your outside influences will agree to this and give you the time needed to correct many things that need corrected and an update can come that is just fixes to issues that will show the community in plain sight you are trying. No new added prem even if it is ready, no new eye candy even if it is ready...ect. I think most of the player base would appreciate an update as such more then anything. Not the current type updates where it seems the focus of the update lies only in new content an the fixes that are done are barely spotlighted.

Cordially,
Ding

12-28-2011, 01:11 PM	#63
Thanus Count Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,093	From Realms Online Forum : For those having combat log problem Please try this procedures: 1. Make sure your combat log is on the same window with realm,commerce,clan and general window. 2. Re-log (go back to char selection page) 3. You should be able to have a scrolling combat log after you re-log, you can also press "L" in game to put the combat log in new window for easy access but make sure to always follow step number 1 before you exit the game. __________________ AOS - High perfomance.Delivered

12-28-2011, 02:12 PM	#67
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	Guys report all you find, fix - case closed. As far as i know whole RO protocol is unencrypted. Everyone can get Wire Shark and start to sniff and see what happens. You just need time and coffee to convert all this into something. Authentication to server is made by MD5 hash which is easy to crack using modern crackers(hashkill and others) and GPU's. There is no ideal software and every devel makes mistakes no matter how good he is. There are many factors - deadlines, stress, IRL issues... If you like the product you can be grateful by helping devels with finding in fixing critical issues. @Спектр if you do not let it go - someone will find too sooner or later. (И пошли все нахуй. ) __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

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12-28-2011, 12:24 PM	#62
Raghn Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 56	IDK .... I'm discouraged every game update, the lack of NGD professionalism, to use the main server as alpha release (ngd has a checklist before update?), introducing many new bugs, not fixed old bugs, trying to improve one or two things and worse 5 or 6 things that were good... I see total lack of quality, bugs happens, nobody's perfect, but I as a consumer, I see the lack of preparation by the person who leads the way things go in the NGD... I'm sad, cause RO is a really good "product", and by the way, I presume the CEO doesn't see the real potential of the RO... IDK how complex is the RO source code, but one thing is clear, the problems add up with the current stance... NGD know that Horus is like a ghost server today, the factor isn't the new servers, is the low quality, players tired of seeing this attitude, thinking whether should be or not spend money in the RO... Open mind, lots of good players, they know what they say, use what they say for the benefit of the game. I could mention many names of players impartial in their analysis, just thinking in a better game to play. for eg: beacons, offensive beacon broke the game, and other things are not reviewed before new updates. Bonus exp is not the way, the way is fix the bugs to keep your customers, be honest... I hope that the NGD see this post and take constructive criticism, and really think "what we're doing wrong", and I hope it becomes playable again... I'm sure it ngd didn't follow the 'slow science way' before implementing the WM expansion... thks

12-28-2011, 02:32 PM	#69
OpperVaagheid Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Holland Posts: 226	Mmmm maybe the solution is much easier. Cne.. you wanted money probably. You got free xim by using the bug. Why not tell NGD now whats wrong. YOu tell them whats wrong, ngd don't ban you for that and let you keep the stuff you got from it. You have your payment and NGD can solve there problem?

12-28-2011, 02:51 PM	#70
Warthog Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 90	For the sake of the game which I have spent years with (though not so much recently) an still love to play given the time. I hope what was done can be safely undone without too much harm to the companies employee's. Some of us seem to forget that while this game might be your guys dream but it is not your life. For it to be destroyed through people trying to cheat or prove a point or whatever they want to call it would not only take away a stress release and enjoyment for us players but would put you guys an your families in jeapordy. I am also glad to hear you will be rethinking how you work your updates. For the past year or so it seems many things have been rushed. Probably do to multiple reasons, whiners constantly on forum/PMs/ticket system saying you need this or that done, outside influences from Gamgio/gamesamba, and even a want on your end to try to keep the game up to par with competition. Try to find some time to put some serious look into many of the major and minor bug issues there are an get them fixed before pushing forward with content. An please don't let this horrible set of circumstances let it take this game away from us. Personally, I still have the fear that cause of all this and your current success with other projects that RO might just up an vanish after your current contracts/agreements with Gamigo and Gamesamba end. This would be a true shame if it ever did happen. Most of us do understand that due to the size and lack of funding compared to most of the other major game producing studios things will not be able to change over-night. In terms of manpower hours alone I am sure other studios can prolly in a day put in the collective amount of man power hours it takes you guys weeks to put into this game. So try to find a happy medium to use your time more wisely. For now IMO most focus should go to bug fixing, something that has been done only in the backround for too long while other content was brought along. Hopefully your outside influences will agree to this and give you the time needed to correct many things that need corrected and an update can come that is just fixes to issues that will show the community in plain sight you are trying. No new added prem even if it is ready, no new eye candy even if it is ready...ect. I think most of the player base would appreciate an update as such more then anything. Not the current type updates where it seems the focus of the update lies only in new content an the fixes that are done are barely spotlighted. Cordially, Ding