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Old 07-26-2012, 08:48 PM   #11
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He does, as I do (you dont't see mouse pointer clicking icons). It's much quicker to press kbd button than aim the icon with mouse.
This isn't always true, it just depends on the person, especially the layout of their desk, keyboard, etc. For example, if you have RSI like me, making those big finger movements to the number keys from WASD is difficult, compared to a small mouse movement (when mouse or trackball is set to very high DPI).

Also, casting spells with keyboard means to take hand partially off of WASD, interrupting movement to some degree.

There are definitely some spells where casting with the keyboard is important, such as Ambush after Winter stroke (for Marks), or Will Domain around an object (Lock/Conj), but for the most part if you are spamming some key to cast a spell, you probably aren't moving around enough, creating a vulnerability. Its best to properly balance that vulnerability with getting a spell off earlier; sometimes the risk of getting caught is too high to be worth risking a spell resist.

As for drag icon problem, well that's NGD 's problem not player's problem. Fights are often lost by bugs of many kinds and that can't be helped.

I think that players need to develop their own way of playing and be proud of it. Competition does nothing here; if a player is more effective playing how they ilke rather than how someone else wants them to, then they are a bigger asset in battles. Their playing style should be suited around their real life circumstances, including their physical enivonment and taking into account any health problems that they have, to ultimate maximise their effectiveness to allies.

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Old 07-26-2012, 09:19 PM   #12
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I'm right handed and I have no kind of problem when playing with the buttons , its easy ... So yes, only use the mouse to clicking on the enemy.

Nice video.

we Fight many times but I'm not on your video .

I understand .. most of the time are 2 vs 1 and I be an ally, or your an ally.

Besides the PVPs are boring. I hiding in a tree. and your waiting for me to range 40 haha.


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I think the main problem with fighting with barbs is horn...2vs1 and if barb has horn and my slow is lvl 1, it won't end well lol. I rarely get fair fights in the warzone and I get zerged most of the time tbh and die fast too.

horn of the wind, which makes hunting solo extremely difficult against mulitple targets as more and more ppl become warmaster.

As for pvps, barbs treehug against warlock just like warlock treehug against marks...It's not much fun to show on youtube anymore... This game is getting more and more imbalanced and making hunting solo more and more difficult and less fun to watch.

I do enjoy fighting you, one of the best in Haven
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:41 PM   #13
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This isn't always true, it just depends on the person, especially the layout of their desk, keyboard, etc. For example, if you have RSI like me, making those big finger movements to the number keys from WASD is difficult, compared to a small mouse movement (when mouse or trackball is set to very high DPI).

Also, casting spells with keyboard means to take hand partially off of WASD, interrupting movement to some degree.

There are definitely some spells where casting with the keyboard is important, such as Ambush after Winter stroke (for Marks), or Will Domain around an object (Lock/Conj), but for the most part if you are spamming some key to cast a spell, you probably aren't moving around enough, creating a vulnerability. Its best to properly balance that vulnerability with getting a spell off earlier; sometimes the risk of getting caught is too high to be worth risking a spell resist.

As for drag icon problem, well that's NGD 's problem not player's problem. Fights are often lost by bugs of many kinds and that can't be helped.

I think that players need to develop their own way of playing and be proud of it. Competition does nothing here; if a player is more effective playing how they ilke rather than how someone else wants them to, then they are a bigger asset in battles. Their playing style should be suited around their real life circumstances, including their physical enivonment and taking into account any health problems that they have, to ultimate maximise their effectiveness to allies.
The fact that ndg won't allow us to reconfigure the number keys and function keys is really annoying. The gameplay performance is therefore limited due to this. Also computer hardware, the make of your keyboard, arrangement of your desktop all comes into play when we are talking about how players cast spells and move. Everybody has its own unique way that suits their own keyboard and real life environment.

Main advantage of full keyboard setup is in RvR and small scale fights. Selecting a target while casting spells and move onto the next target with another spell. such operation is more efficient with full keyboard mode. In my opinion, full keyboard will have more pros than cons compared to a half-half mode. The ultimate end game would be to go full keyboard as it will improve your casting speed and strafing ability in combat.

Ofc I'm speaking from a warlock point of view. Maybe marks who require less spell casting will be more comfortable with a mouse + keyboard setup. I have gone from full-mouse mode to mouse+keyboard to full keyboard and as a warlock, I think overall full keyboard casting have more advantages than half mouse + keyboard but full keyboard definitely require much more practise hehe

The only weakness with full keyboard setup is when u commit both hands on keyboard to complete a 6 spell combo and there is no hand for mouse, you have to use W and R to turn instead of mouse because u don't have enough hands lol. Movement should be an advantage of using full keyboard. Only turns becomes a problem Occationally.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:23 AM   #14
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I get the impression that you prefer PvP for the same reason I dislike it and vice versa; You dislike RvR for the same reason I prefer it.
Each to their own, eh?
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:46 AM   #15
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I think the main problem with fighting with barbs is horn...2vs1 and if barb has horn and my slow is lvl 1, it won't end well lol. I rarely get fair fights in the warzone and I get zerged most of the time tbh and die fast too.
Yuul recently found out why goats take any chance to zerg a lone red (mostly lock)
you should see what happens at our oc/cs/market when some people are trying to get ala >.<

nice vid hepha (I liked the bridge fights more than the rest )
now ive got to grind my lock again..
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:37 AM   #16
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I think that players need to develop their own way of playing and be proud of it. Competition does nothing here; if a player is more effective playing how they ilke rather than how someone else wants them to, then they are a bigger asset in battles. Their playing style should be suited around their real life circumstances, including their physical enivonment and taking into account any health problems that they have, to ultimate maximise their effectiveness to allies.
Agree with you. Everyone should develop his/her own style, which is most effective and suitable for himself.

I use mostly keyboard when I'm in fight, ASDX combination (instead of WASD - an old habbit since DOS FPS games) and for casting combos num keyboard. I found it fast and effective to move my right hand from mouse to it and back. That way i can move my char using keyboard and cast at the same time also using keyboard.

Maybe I should think about building some kind of pedal keyboard so I can move my char with keyboards, click around with mouse and cast using feet

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Old 07-27-2012, 08:46 AM   #17
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Maybe I should think about building some kind of pedal keyboard so I can move my char with keyboards, click around with mouse and cast using feet
when you make that.. please make a copy for me too slarti ^^
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:40 PM   #18
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There is a margin of error that you might click on the wrong spell when you switch ur right hand frequently between keyboard and mouse in combat. In intense combat, you don't look at the keyboard you have to feel your keyboard. key 7 can be reached with ur left hand and key 8 can be reached with ur right depending on the way/pose in which you strafe. That's why I put the same spell on key 7 and 8 so can i reach them with both hand and reduces the error.
When playing other mmorpg's such as WoW it is considered "noob" to click on your spells. I don't blame regnum players for doing this because ngd hasn't given us the option of remapping our keyboard or action bars so we are forced to either stretch our fingers across our keyboard or click which impairs your ability to maneuver your character.

I haven't been able to adjust to not having all my spells at my finger tips so I've taken the liberty of finding external programs to remap my keyboard, mouse and create macro's to cast spells on the extra action bars without having to press F2, F3 ect. For example my 5 button mouse has three buttons we don't use in RO. I've remapped my middle mouse key to be '6', and the other two buttons to 7 and 8. These are usually your spells which require fast reactions such as mind push, will domain, ivy. This also allows you to easily cast spells on your additional bar using the shift modifier. You can take it further and create a macro for alt+6/7/8. This give you 9 spells which are able to cast from your mouse with the help of shift and alt.

Anyway back on topic. These are the kind of warlock videos I've come to love. Thanks for taking the effort to make these videos. They are greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:43 PM   #19
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when you make that.. please make a copy for me too slarti ^^
...and another one for me, Slarti.

I'm still clumsy in movements when I cast only with keyboard...must become good pianists

(Btw... I hope to see a new vid soon! )
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I'm right handed and I have no kind of problem when playing with the buttons , its easy ... So yes, only use the mouse to clicking on the enemy.

Nice video.

we Fight many times but I'm not on your video .

I understand .. most of the time are 2 vs 1 and I be an ally, or your an ally.

Besides the PVPs are boring. I hiding in a tree. and your waiting for me to range 40 haha.


Fuck You google translator.

Regards.
lol u a Nice barb man
U should be in top 10 pro Barbs
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