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Old 10-22-2012, 03:49 AM   #11
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...I am one of the Best -PvP locks and that in my opinion automatically makes me one of the Best -RvR locks since RvR in my opinion isn't nearly as hard as PvP
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etc etc...Locks are known as the most OP class more than 10m and less than 30m...etc etc
Against a good marksman, a lot can go wrong. The warlock would have to maintain a chain that prevented the use of spells throughout the entire fight to win. With spells like winter stroke or sotw that cast quickly, it's pretty easy to break a warlock's chain and that's not taking normal resists into consideration. As soon as the lock gets a resist or gets frozen, it's all over... unless he humps a tree or a rock.

That's only if the marksman is a good player and knows what he's doing. It's the reason why I always avoided pvping your marks at all costs on Raven (I think you have some video of me tree-humping and getting pwned by a save guard or some shit).

Lightninggg should not have pvp'd you. He can't even say you ranged him to death.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:51 AM   #12
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To be honest not even the best warlock in the game (whoever he/she is) would have won that fight. As a warlock beating an average marksman is hard enough but I've said before, Oreo is currently the best marksman I've seen (since Paddy quit his marksman).

Anyway I didn't think you would have lost and I'm glad you gave that wannabe elitist a reality check.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:46 AM   #13
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Furthermore, let's say I did post this to say I beat a lock in pvp with marks. What makes marks so OP? The range? I didn't have it, I fought ~5m basically every fight because all he did was hump trees. The defense? I rarely ever buffed. SotW? He humped the trees basically every time I used it and it failed the one time in open field. The CCs? My CCs are all lvl 4 or lower. Lvl 3 BoW (which he tree humped against so useless most the fights), lvl 3 ambush (cancelled most the time by humping the trees, lvl 4 WS, lvl 4 stun fist (which failed in stunning him several times), lvl 2 dist shot (also cancelled most the time by humping trees). Being lvl 60? I was using lvl 17 WM tree so my setup was basically that of a lvl 52(?) marks. The only thing I was able to use that a marks has better than most other classes is damage. So, tell me how me being a marks had anything to do with the match-up? Locks are known as the most OP class more than 10m and less than 30m. And arguably the 3rd most OP class at ~10m (behind knight and barb).

He was too busy wanting to hump trees before, during, and after his chaining to actually focus on killing me.
Yeah, warlocks are powerful <25 meters to most classes.
Marksmen is however the only class with faster CCs to disrupt their chains quite easily, add to that a set of safety spells and strategic reducing dots damage even from low range.

I dont know why he didnt use mana drains, its really the only thing that makes lock anything close to "OP" against archers.
Either he really is clueless or he choose not to because it quite lame, especially when tree hugging.

Having a WM build only cost discipline points, it will hardly set you back eight levels in the way you describe. Fair enough your stun failed once, the other was a random resist?
But unlike a lock, it far easier to recover from a resist having multiple fast casting CCs and safety spells.

Sure as hell, he only got what he was asking for.
But to be honest, he still didnt really do such a awful job, he even got you once if it wasnt for a "small" mistake.

He sure didnt prove his point either, there wasnt the slightest sign of any astonishing skill level from his part.
If he havent played much for past six months that is too be expected, it would be much easier to be a little rusty and play a lvl 60 marksman compared to a lvl 50ish lock.

Edit: It would be quite interesting to see a recording from his side as well.

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Old 10-22-2012, 10:56 AM   #14
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(btw i think i gave that bow to your knight.)
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:05 PM   #15
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anyways its very entertaining
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:00 PM   #16
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Most of the forum people don't know or can't see this, but when Lightning challenged BPR, he spent the better part of a day on the Facebook group arguing that winning a PvP is proof that you are more skilled than your opponent.

Not to say that BPR isn't better than Lightning (he obviously is), but other than that one moment where Lightning ran back to his tree instead of cancelling a retaliation, I'd like to know where exactly in these PvPs was it that BPR proved to be more skillful than Lightning? Neither would attack unless their opponent is CCed (or out of range, using sotw etc in the case of marksman), so the entire thing is dictated by the fact that BPRs 0.5 second cast time CCs are faster than Lightning's CCs. Completely baffles me how anyone can call that skill.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:13 PM   #17
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Most of the forum people don't know or can't see this, but when Lightning challenged BPR, he spent the better part of a day on the Facebook group arguing that winning a PvP is proof that you are more skilled than your opponent.
This actualy made my day, is there any screen of that? I would like something epic to read before bed tonight .

Anyway, I think most of the comunity can agree, that Ligtning is just a self-esteemed troll. When he challenged the whole world by calling for a PvP (that he would surely win) and then failed three times in a row with the first opponent, he burned himself. To death.

+1 to TheMessenger for beating him, there was certainly skill and tactics involved, when approaching a treehugging lock. Usualy I would expect the marks to treehug and the lock trying to lure him into close combat with no obstacles.

Since Lighting has been "brought to justice", I would like to appeal to the whole community, not to let such people as Lightning (yes, there are many like him on the forums and in everyday life), to annoy you. I am aware, that they are annoying and obviously entirely wrong (some of you might rather call them stupid). Their self-esteem is a pain as well.
Just realize, that they "feed" on the comunity feedback. If you don't respond to them, they will disappear (and/or get banned sooner or later).

Just think about it
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:26 PM   #18
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Completely baffles me how anyone can call that skill.
I’m completely baffled people argue about skill in Regnum. Regnum and competitive gaming. Hahaha.

Seriously, some people need to get out more.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:30 PM   #19
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This actualy made my day, is there any screen of that? I would like something epic to read before bed tonight .

Delivered. Although, it was like a 6 hour conversation or something, I'm not going to screenshot it all

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+1 to TheMessenger for beating him, there was certainly skill and tactics involved, when approaching a treehugging lock.
I didn't mean to say that it requires no skill, or there was no skill displayed, just that it was not a deciding factor. No amount of skill from Lightning would make his will domain cast faster than BPR's winter stroke, and in the end it was the CC chain of winter stroke, stun fist, ambush (repeatedly) that allowed BPR to win.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:46 PM   #20
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Delivered. Although, it was like a 6 hour conversation or something, I'm not going to screenshot it all
Thanks, It seems I will check the fb page again


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I didn't mean to say that it requires no skill, or there was no skill displayed, just that it was not a deciding factor. No amount of skill from Lightning would make his will domain cast faster than BPR's winter stroke, and in the end it was the CC chain of winter stroke, stun fist, ambush (repeatedly) that allowed BPR to win.
Fair enough. As Seher stated above (unless I misunderstood him), there is no definition of "skill" and such anyway. If you win or loose depends on some basic knowledge of your opponents spells and his class gameplay, knowledge of your own spells and how to play agains his class, then timing, gear of both players, and luck.


Stating that someone is "the best" is ridiculous, as it lacks solid definition, and everyone fails sometimes anyway. There are only players with more or less experience.
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