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Old 04-16-2013, 07:41 PM   #1
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Default Force Armour & Self defence

Long Story short, I'm seeing a lot of conjus lately with Force Armour.
Honestly I never found it that useful and anyway, I want your thoughts on this spell.
I'm finding it a little difficult lately,(although I've met some jewelled archers :'() surviving at all.(Might be because of my absence as well )
Truth be told I'm not expecting a lot of positive reviews on this spell, but who knows? I might be surprised.
So to continue with this is, how do you increase your defence against anything apart from Steel Skin and Energy Barrier 5?

Let this topic be for all Conjurers interested, curious about these spells and others. Might help somebody else apart from me.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:50 PM   #2
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I never tested force armour.

I haven't used energy barrier for months now and only use karma mirror + self heals 4/5. To be honest, nothing will help against archers with boss jewelry except a tree.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:57 PM   #3
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The way armor points work, force armor is increasingly effective when used with better armor. If your conjurer is geared with level 60 gear, all very good against piercing, I would guess force armor can be quite helpful against archers. Personally I prefer to gear my conjurer for health and mana instead, and find that humping a tree, rock, or fort costs less power points than force armor.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:58 PM   #4
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Duration 60, CD 70
Protection +30%

Well, for a mage, I wouldn't guess that boosting armour points would give a huge boost of defence. Perhaps, that if a conju has decent resists against a certain dmg type, the 30% protection bonus could help, but still, I'd rather go for Karma mirror, that returns the 30%...

However, I have to admit, that I didn't test this spell, so I might be wrong. From my point of view, it isn't worth it though. Conjurer has better defence spells to invest PP into.

For general defense, I use mind blank, energy barrier, steel skin (when required), and the self-healing spells.
Karma mirror is useful, only on high level though, since less than 30% is not much useful though.
The differences in CD/duration of mind blank and karma mirror make them situation based - sometimes they don't help much and you find out you just "wasted them", other times they save you from sure death..
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:00 PM   #5
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As said by Pnarpa, trees. And running. Be always on the back, and when you go forward, remember to buff. I've never used Force Armour but I'm seeing a lot of conjs lately using it, still I manage to keep myself alive by having my eyes wide open. That I think is the best possible way of defense for us.

When you get targeted, run back; when a barb is coming, cast Sanctuary or run for your life, etc... Oh, and Mind Blank is possibly your best defense.

To sum up, Karma Mirror + Steel Skin for damage resistance; Mind Blank for resistance to powers. And ALWAYS stay alert.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:01 PM   #6
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force armor can be great if you got a lot of armor points already
My selfdefence is already lacking tho..

only self defence I got is barrier + steelskin (Mindblank and sanc)
if a barb reaches me Im dead anyway and marks with boss-stuff..
well yes a tree or another target


best way I know off to stay alive is to have self heal(s) and cover nearby
and by mindpushing the crap out of warriors ^^
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:04 PM   #7
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I never found it very useful, maybe because i focus more on bonuses than resists and levels of gear.

Main factor i do not use it is this spell have a very bright and distinct animation - it is like a big sign telling "shoot me i'm conju".

But most of all conju is teamplay class and there must be second one to have DI and support. Kill enemy conju first and keep ally conju alive.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:20 AM   #8
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I see. Well recently have acquired a 7 const tunic, which is elite, so I guess it's the same as lvl60 excluding WM stuff and the new items, my Tunic is the highest. My bracelet right now is temporarily a Great Healer Bracelet, though normally I'd use a lvl45 bracelet as it has mana. I guess it isn't very viable considering I have half, if not more, of my gear lvl 50.

As for more 'self-defence', Anyone maxes WM Tree for health. Perhaps a better question is, what lvl do you normally carry the WM Tree?

Do you prefer getting more mental and perhaps Static Field instead?
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:32 AM   #9
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I wish i can be WM now at conju - i suppose it will take me time. As of it i will take HP and CS bonuses for sure.

Of mental i usually get ivy and push. Domain and TM are good too. Static is a good aura but it is spear range. Well applied at fort doors it is nice. Evendim Fury is perfect too, but it is hard to get it in support setup without sacrificing war master passives.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:02 PM   #10
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My conjurer isn't high enough to perform in the warzone but I've noticed that my hunters damage usually sucks on conjurers using it, so it can't be that bad. I have no rings and amulets so that could be the explaination.
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