Why does everyone hates hunters?

[Angelwinged_Devil]

pff this is so subjective

no, I'm working to get my warlock to level 50, playing as a level 40 has given me quite some experience and will ensure i'm not just another level 50 pt

[Myxir]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

try it for yourself I remember I saw an archer with acrobatics off, then I attacked, he turned it on and suddenly 320 damage went to 156.

Acrobatics does not reduce the damage by 50%.
I would like to say "try it by yourself" but you don't have a hunter, huh?

[fluffy_muffin]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

that's YOUR experiences... and I know how to play my class, again the arguments are dull because we can't hit with our damn spells. I can easily kill a hunter with my levelling setup because of my 300 damage staff shots. But when I use spells it's the hunters spell elude which determines the outcome of the fight, and if spell elude isn't enough

Sure you can hit me. Do you want test it on arena?

[ljwolfe]

hunters shouldn't have so many get out of jail free cards. If they choose to start a fight, they should be forced to stick around to die or finish it. perma sprint, stealth and high evade are b.s. on one toon.

[Myxir]

Originally Posted by ljwolfe

hunters shouldn't have so many get out of jail free cards. If they choose to start a fight, they should be forced to stick around to die or finish it. perma sprint, stealth and high evade are b.s. on one toon.

LOL, that's crap... that would mean you force hunters to die. All other classes have damage spells, we don't. So give us über-damage spells too, or simply let things stay as they are.
The archer class is the only class where the "offensive" and "defensive" thing is really realized...

[Znurre]

Originally Posted by Myxir

LOL, that's crap... that would mean you force hunters to die. All other classes have damage spells, we don't. So give us über-damage spells too, or simply let things stay as they are.
The archer class is the only class where the "offensive" and "defensive" thing is really realized...

That is the problem, you have.
Read octopus post, I found it great and it explains things very clear.

[misaccc]

Originally Posted by octopus

Pets: They have very powerful pets that cost no mana to sustain. A conjurer's summon must be re-cast every 4 minutes, at cost of 550 to 600 mana. A warlock who gets lucky enough to capture a summon won't have it long, since he can't heal it, and loses it on logout. Hunters can revive their pet if it dies, and their pets become invisible now with the improvements in Camo. With their speed higher than most other classes, the hunter only needs to send his pet after the person. I see "very easy" pets doing 250+ damage, and level 50 pets doing around 400.

Escape: When a hunter attacks, he faces very little risk of dying. If he gets very unlucky and doesn't evade everything, no biggie. He can simply run away if he gets hurt too bad. Let his pet keep hammering on the enemy, but who cares? It's easy enough to run off, revive pet, regain mana and HP, and go back again. I often "beat" a hunter until they leave, but I almost never actually kill them. I see this even when I'm in a group attacking lone hunter.

Confuse: This one spell, I believe, is the reason there are so few support conjurers anymore. This one spell is fast to cast, low mana cost, low cool-down, is about the only mental-type spell that is not hindered by Mind Blank, and has a duration of 35 to 40 seconds! Cast this on a conjurer in a small party, and there's not much they can do except shoot their staff for 100 damage, or a level 1 ivy (this is all the offense most support conjurers have).

Son of the Wind: This spell protects like the conjurer's Sanctuary... except the hunter and his pet can continue to attack. Sanctuary, on the other hand, will instantly cancel all buffs, all area spells, and their summon the moment it's cast, leaving the conjurer very vulnerable the moment it wears off. By the time a hunter's SoW wears off, he's out of range of all enemies and quite safe.

Hunters are perceived as cowards. Enemy hunters run away if they start to lose, leaving their pet to do their dirty work. Also I often see hunters scattering when their fort door is about to break, zipping off unharmed, leaving their remaining teammates in a very weakened state. Of course not all are cowards, but the class itself encourages this behavior.

Well i wanted to comment some of the stuff you stated here...

1.Pets are not that strong...i see lvl50 pets hitting max 350 damage and that are critics...and if you can stun,knock,freeze the hunter pets are not so hard to deal with...

2.Hunters were designed to get away...yes i hate when they run away with | <---- this much health but what can you do eh?if the pet keeps attacking as a lock you can soulkeep it steal its mana etc...

3.I totaly agree on confuse and i hope they nerf it more then now...

4.Sow...i will state my oppinion about this from a knights point...if he casts it i either try to mind squash or balestra him...if this doesent work i just cast blocks and regen my mana(try to run around a tree too:P)...if he has a pet i attack it forcing him to practically waste the cast...and imho sotw is just like casting protector...all luck...sometimes you block(evade) and sometimes it doesent work and you die...

5.Well that depends on the player...i usualy see them casting stalker and not running away...i only see rp lovers running away...

[makarios68]

Originally Posted by makarios68

You also said i use camping tactics, which i would like you to elaborate on, coz anyone who knows me will testify that i never camp anything.

I'd just like to add to this that Znurre has assured me he mis-typed his chat message.

He typed "camp tactics", instead of "camo tactics".

I'll take him at his word for this...

[aric_swartzell]

If it's not one thing it's another. Let it go.

[makarios68]

Originally Posted by aric_swartzell

If it's not one thing it's another. Let it go.

There is no "another" - and we have let it go - your post was totally unneccessary...