European players, attention

[magnet]

Originally Posted by marchalain

Even "evil" Microsoft is changing that policy: (I know you understand spanish)

http://www.emol.com/noticias/tecnolo...noticia=272596

But I don't understand broken links

[Ertial]

It's indeed wrong in my eyes.

But the USA are the 2nd and 1th world in one country, whereas in the EU we've just got the 1th world(except for some parts in the East, sorry Stooge. :P But I think we don't have that slums they've got in LA.) . I don't think those people in the poor parts (or what's remaining of that) in New Orleans can pay $ 20 for such a thing. I even doubt if they can afford a computer at all. A fact is that you have to work harder in the USA than in the EU. There is almost no social care, when you lose your job you're lost. That is something that justifies the price changes. But it doesn't justify why we should pay that much more. When it will be cheaper I think more people will buy it and more income will be generated.

[chilko]

There are normal reasons for multinationals doing this...

you need to measure things not in terms of exchange rate but in terms of purchase power. The problem is that there are subtle differences in terms of purchase power inside Europe... comparing Spain to Germany for example.

But please, do not blame us for you guys adopting a single currency and becoming a new economic superpower.

Purchase power apparently is still 1 to 1. This is why if you compare the price of very tipical mass market products such as a big Mac, or luxury products such as th I pod usually have the same 1 to 1 ratio.
Look at the price of games, consoles, subscriptions, magazines, etc.

Also let me clear some facts.

Fact 1:
when we decided on this parity, the Euro was 1,25 dollars only.

Fact 2:
This is not going to be like this for a long time, the Dollar its already climbing back again.

Fact 3:
Argentina has had a real inflation of about 20% in the last year, also salaries have been raised more than that in the same period. We are not adding those higher costs to the price of the premium content either.

best regards,

- Chilko

PD: There is no evil plot to screw anyone here, its just the way it is and we are in no position to make it better. This also allowed for Vivendi to buy Sierra next Blizzard and later Activision, i don't see any Europeans complaining about that

[Leadoffhitter]

Originally Posted by magnet

But I don't understand broken links

Page no longer available, Elrik.

http://www.gameover.es/destacados/ba...-xbox-360.html

Arcade pack is aroud 300 $ in the states, if I'm not wrong.

[LenaRosemberg]

Can't you make the prices in pesos and let Paypal manage the currency conversion ?

[Leadoffhitter]

Originally Posted by Yest

It's indeed wrong in my eyes.

But the USA are the 2nd and 1th world in one country, whereas in the EU we've just got the 1th world(except for some parts in the East, sorry Stooge. :P But I think we don't have that slums they've got in LA.) . I don't think those people in the poor parts (or what's remaining of that) in New Orleans can pay $ 20 for such a thing. I even doubt if they can afford a computer at all. A fact is that you have to work harder in the USA than in the EU. There is almost no social care, when you lose your job you're lost. That is something that justifies the price changes. But it doesn't justify why we should pay that much more. When it will be cheaper I think more people will buy it and more income will be generated.

Socio degree in here; I know how States are, but it's their gouvernment decision not having social security or an education system that creates such differences, nothing to do with companies selling products on Internet, please.
Working to pay my bills (house, food, water, electricity, internet...) and the difference, it's important. Maybe in Netherlands is different, and it's not that important to you.

Originally Posted by chilko

Purchase power apparently is still 1 to 1. This is why if you compare the price of very tipical mass market products such as a big Mac, or luxury products such as th I pod usually have the same 1 to 1 ratio.
Look at the price of games, consoles, subscriptions, magazines, etc.

Please chilko, take a look at the link about Microsoft Consoles...

Originally Posted by chilko

Fact 2:
This is not going to be like this for a long time, the Dollar its already climbing back again.

That's not a fact chilko, it is a prediction that nobody knows how it will finish. Markets fluctuates.

Originally Posted by chilko

Fact 3:
Argentina has had a real inflation of about 20% in the last year, also salaries have been raised more than that in the same period. We are not adding those higher costs to the price of the premium content either.

Happy to read that, because I've always think that argentinian players could have more problems, and as I already explained in the letter I sent to NGD (I suppose you've already read it) it's important that they continue in the project all the way.

Multinationals are reacting because the difference is clearly unfair, as you can see in the link...

Originally Posted by chilko

we are in no position to make it better

Imho, yes, you are. Paypal allows to make those changes.

Regards.

[BlooD]

Well i really thougth all people knew about this, since ancient times all companies do the change $=euro and i know a lot of people who import every new console or videogame instead of waiting for bad dubs and non-translated games.

In spain this is very usual, for the ones who dont know it half of europe come here to have parties. I meet (and tricked :/) a lot of people from europe who were amazed seeing how a beer its only a few more than 1 euro here and they need 20 euros in his country to have 4 beers.

Few days ago they talked in television about how many people is going to new york on holidays and they come with tons of cloths because are really cheap there.

And it is not because we earn a lot of money at work, its because we can perfectly live with less money because our prices are low too. For example my family live with around 900 euros per month and i am sure if i lived in germany or england i cant live with that amount of money.

And this will cahnge someday so there is no big deal, i dont see people from argentina complaining (well i see them but not much) about why they have to pay 60 pesos for 18k xymeril instead of 20.

Getting off-topic the thing who makes me really angry is EA doing stupid things against piracy, i mean, Mass Effects is now gold and i was going to buy it (bioware=gods) and they implemented drm so you cant installl it more than 5 times without calling EA support to validate it again. Now i am sure i will play the pirate version. Sorry but i had to say it.

[elendriel]

The problem is that when NGD introduced de the ximeryn, the difference between the dollar wan't so big as now. Even I remember that one year ago(the time that was introduced ximerin) even being more expensive the euro, as 1,3$=1€ there were more companies like Apple that made the change 1$=1€.

But nowadays the difference is so big, that inclusive Apple doesn't make this kind of change, changed the politics.

Even with that exchange the people critizied a lot the companies that did it, now is even more abusive, and should consider to change the exchange.

[elendriel]

Originally Posted by BlooD

Well i really thougth all people knew about this, since ancient times all companies do the change $=euro and i know a lot of people who import every new console or videogame instead of waiting for bad dubs and non-translated games.

In spain this is very usual, for the ones who dont know it half of europe come here to have parties. I meet (and tricked :/) a lot of people from europe who were amazed seeing how a beer its only a few more than 1 euro here and they need 20 euros in his country to have 4 beers.

Few days ago they talked in television about how many people is going to new york on holidays and they come with tons of cloths because are really cheap there.

And it is not because we earn a lot of money at work, its because we can perfectly live with less money because our prices are low too. For example my family live with around 900 euros per month and i am sure if i lived in germany or england i cant live with that amount of money.

And this will cahnge someday so there is no big deal, i dont see people from argentina complaining (well i see them but not much) about why they have to pay 60 pesos for 18k xymeril instead of 20.

Getting off-topic the thing who makes me really angry is EA doing stupid things against piracy, i mean, Mass Effects is now gold and i was going to buy it (bioware=gods) and they implemented drm so you cant installl it more than 5 times without calling EA support to validate it again. Now i am sure i will play the pirate version. Sorry but i had to say it.

With 900€ per month you don't live where I live, and I live in Spain. And the cost of the life is equiparable to the one in Germany or other richer countries, living there with a salary much inferior. I'm talking about Mallorca, and the salaries aren't very big.

So going back to the topic, although a lot of companies do this kind of theft, it isn't a tolerable practice.

[-Edge-]

Originally Posted by Froste

No you wouldn't, because you stopped playing, remember?

Maybe one of the reason I would be active in the game fluctuates on the fact that I cannot purchase Ximerin, I would love to buy it.