European players, attention

[BlooD]

Originally Posted by marchalain

Low prices on alcohol shows most of the time less power purchase.

How is it possible that everybody pays more or less the same price, but europeans? Why?

You missed my point, i know we have less pruchase power, but i am just comparing us and europe to make a comparison between europe and argentina.

Take it like this, 18k xymeril = 20 euros. Thats the price.
If you make sudamericans pay the same amount we pay, that will be very bad for them because they dont have our purchase power.

They are not making it hard for us, they are making it easier for them. And i think thats perfect.

[Leadoffhitter]

Originally Posted by BlooD

You missed my point, i know we have less pruchase power, but i am just comparing us and europe to make a comparison between europe and argentina.

Take it like this, 18k xymeril = 20 euros. Thats the price.
If you make sudamericans pay the same amount we pay, that will be very bad for them because they dont have our purchase power.

They are not making it hard for us, they are making it easier for them. And i think thats perfect.

I'm gonna send you a copy on private message of the letter I wrote to NGD because for me argentinians (whole sudamerica, you're right) are very important to the game and they should be allowed to get premium, but what's going on with us is crazy.

But, have canadians, northamericans, aussies that problems? No, they have more purchase power and they are paying the same than argentinians. It's just europeans who are paying more, way more for the same product, without any more costs who could explain it. Why?

[chilko]

This is my last post on this matter.

This is not a bug. This is a commercial decision.
Most of the income made in Europe is from Germany which is handled by a partner. The Euro pricing is impossible to change for us.
The only thing that we could do to make things "more fair" would be to raise the price in Dollars and Pesos.

Do you think that makes things better?

I hope the Dollar (and the Peso) starts climbing again... so i could go to Europe in the future and be able to pay for a 5 Euro beer

Regards,

- Chilko

PS: Even when our salaries are in Pesos (close to what a maid might do in Europe) and we are still not making enough money to sustain the game I have to discuss about the fairness of our super-cheap premium content.
I am getting tired of having to discuss business models with the community. /me goes back to work on Regnum.

[Leadoffhitter]

Originally Posted by chilko

This is my last post on this matter.

This is not a bug. This is a commercial decision.
Most of the income made in Europe is from Germany which is handled by a partner. The Euro pricing is impossible to change for us.
The only thing that we could do to make things "more fair" would be to raise the price in Dollars and Pesos.

Do you think that makes things better?

I hope the Dollar (and the Peso) starts climbing again... so i could go to Europe in the future and be able to pay for a 5 Euro beer

Regards,

- Chilko

PS: Even when our salaries are in Pesos (close to what a maid might do in Europe) and we are still not making enough money to sustain the game I have to discuss about the fairness of our super-cheap premium content.
I am getting tired of having to discuss business models with the community. /me goes back to work on Regnum.

Ok, it seems Gamigo wouldn't allow NGD to make changes on prices because Muspell and the other server would be empty in hours. Maybe, maybe not.

Now with the raising...
It seems like kinda menace, unfortunately. And it's like making every dolar user hating a player that is proposing things that you know are pretty fair. Nobody asked for a raising and you know it, it seems you're just putting some pressure on.

The beer... In Spain you won't have that problem. You'll got it for an euro (this is not Germany, you know?). If you come to Madrid I will invite you for sure. But without any supplement charges!!

Super-cheap and less super-cheap, chilko. Unfortunately.

Yup, my last vacation day will soon be over. So I will go back to my work too, tomorrow. I have to squeeze my brains for increasing our decreasing sales on Internet without increasing prices!

Regards.

[Inkster]

Originally Posted by chilko

I am getting tired of having to discuss business models with the community. /me goes back to work on Regnum.

Were not just the community, were are also in some cases Paying customers. Also

Originally Posted by chilko

actually NGD has signed a very big development deal that will sustain the company for a long time.

We have decided to invest most of that money into Regnum, expanding the team, buying more servers, etc.

if this is the case then why

Originally Posted by chilko

and we are still not making enough money to sustain the game

There won't be some change... until 2 USD = 1 EUR, and if our future new comers in Eurozone continues their uber economical growth, it's expected to be in some years. All of that because the price of Oil that will fatally increases. Recession in US will be hard to fix...

As a matter of fact, many analysis concerning USD vs EUR plan 1 EUR = 1.75 USD for the end of the year.

It's not to NGD to change, the future will do it alone. Even if it's unfair i agree.

[CumeriTarenes]

Originally Posted by chilko

Fact 2:
This is not going to be like this for a long time, the Dollar its already climbing back again.

Look at the chart I posted. Make a chart analysis and check your argument again


Also I cannot realy understand the discussion about purchase power:

The amount of money is still the same. It does not matter if you have 1€ or 1,6$. The value of both is the same at the moment since you can change currency in every bank.

If NGD wants to be realy fair they would make a fixed price for one Xymerin in one currency. Every customer who wants to buy Xymerin in another currency has to pay for the same value of money. An example: NGD says 18000 Xymerin cost 20€. Then, if you want to pay in Dollars they look how the €/$ ratio is. If the ratio is 1:1,6 you have to pay 32$ for 18000 Xymerin.

If the ratio is only 1:1,25 you have to pay 25$

This is the only way to make sure everybody pays the same amount of money. Trading Xymerin is the same kind of product like a stock. The stock has the same value all over the world, like 18000 Xymerin have the same value in whole regnum, no matter where you are from. Stocks are also something virtuel, means you don't have to transport or to produce it, just like Xymerin.
If I buy a stock from mircosoft in New York or London, the value of money I have to pay is the same in both places because the product I get has the same value in both places. too.

Doing it the way I suggested is the only way for NGD do make their income independent from currency ratios.

[chilko]

Regnum is still not sustainable by itself
we are investing much more money to try to make the game better and hopefully, sustainable...
We just can't subsidize the game forever...
Please stop with this discussion.

regards,

- Chilko

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by chilko

Regnum is still not sustainable by itself
we are investing much more money to try to make the game better and hopefully, sustainable...
We just can't subsidize the game forever...
Please stop with this discussion.

regards,

- Chilko

heh, I understand where you're going, but you need to listen to the community as this is the feedback you get, if a company fails to answer the feedback with their product they will simply go down.

Also another thing, you are talking about purchasing power? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's the companys responsibility to change this, but to make fair prizings and be neutral on that matter?

Thanks for your responses

[magnet]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

heh, I understand where you're going, but you need to listen to the community as this is the feedback you get, if a company fails to answer the feedback with their product they will simply go down.

Also another thing, you are talking about purchasing power? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's the companys responsibility to change this, but to make fair prizings and be neutral on that matter?

Thanks for your responses

FFS will you let go of it?

Personally I don't like the arguments such as "huge multinationals do this". I don't give a flying fuck about the fact that they do it, why do they? To balance costs over America, Europe and Asia -- to make Europeans pay for American and Asians lower budgets (and personally my solidarity doesn't go as far as to help fat American kids get Xboxes or iPods). But chilko was honest enough and cut through the BS (business speak ): they need money, European players are their largest market (esp with Muspell and Niffelheim I guess) so they are not going to change this. I don't think it would be fair for Argentines to get the Xim price raised; as for Canadians and Americans, I guess it should be more expensive in their zone, but that would only generate more whining over here I guess. It would be "fair" in the sense of Euro players would pay the same as them, but personally I don't care if it's more expensive or cheaper for others if MY OWN price is not gonna change.

I think NGD was stuck in a vicious circle with Regnum previously: no sponsors, no money, and a buggy game in a beta stage which can hardly get you enough sponsors or money. They are trying hard to get out of it and set the game on a proper development road, and I'm looking forward to it.

Instead of constantly whining for a game you never put a cent in, how about YOU buy some Xim as support even if you don't use it? For now I've only seen you post stuff such as "if you do this, I'll buy Xim". This is not how things work, they need money first so they can implement stuff. And regarding the "I can't buy Xim" argument, trust me there is always a way if you want it hard enough.

Yes, this is bad that Euro players pay higher, but Xim is a virtual currency and NGD is the sole seller. That's how it is. For me the main problem right now is that it seems we can't get our Xim since almost one week and we still don't have an answer. Not the price of the Xim.

So just let go of it, be happy that you got an honest explanation, end of story and buy some Xim -- if everyone did maybe it would be cheaper.