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fluffy_muffin · 07-07-2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excavator

600+- on range 30 !!![/B]
IMHO this should not possible....

Yes imo marks doing that dmg with normal shot or by ethereal should be baned. Geez.

EDIT: such high dmg can be obtained by debuffing target and choosing proper arrows and bow. And honestly you can have higher dmg from dual shot and DS.

Valorius · 07-07-2008, 07:22 PM

Unboosted, Ensnare lvl 5 does about 500-600dmg vs a lvl 50 mage, depending on bow. The 25/Slow viper longbow i used in the screen shot is 600+. And to do that you have to have lvl 19 scouting- something few hunters actually have.

The range should be 25 like it was before IMO. The range was increased to compensate for the increased speed of onslaught too though. With 25 ensnare catching onslaughted players would be a good deal harder, and it's already hard now.

Beyond the range i think it's fine though.

The old fixed pierce damage ensnare arrow (the one that we had for probably 70% of my time playing in regnum) was such a weak spell that i had it on lvl 1. I didn't even use it at all. It was worse than shield pierce is now.

Angelwinged_Devil · 07-07-2008, 07:33 PM

you sound like a barb XD
ensnaring arrow 1023 jajajajajajaa

CumeriTarenes · 07-07-2008, 08:47 PM

ah, Valorius changed her post and deleted ym quote about the "overpowered" ensnarre arrow.

I am glad you realized how it was meant. When I first saw the quote and then your comment I thought

Valorius · 07-07-2008, 09:18 PM

I think ensnare is overpowered in the sense that it should be range 25.

Mage_pegusas · 07-07-2008, 10:25 PM

LOL LETS NERF ENSNARING ARROW! wtf. Jeez give over, some people wont be happy til hunters have to stand still and shoot, and do 100 dmg normal hits on an unbuffed mage. >.>
Lets all sit around a camp fire and sing.

Jedi-x · 07-07-2008, 11:35 PM

The only thing overpowered with Ensnare, is that you can use it with DF .... at a distance !!!!! IMHO .... when these 2 are used together, either the range should be lessened, or the bonus from DF should be null if from a distance. Other than that, Ensnare is fine as it is.

Off Topic: .... We all know that onslought gives a blunt damage bonus. So why does it NOT work with a Warlock using Golem fist? I did several tests the other day with clanmates, and with ONS (lvl5) on both "normal" and "challenging" mobs, it either had no effect, or actually decreased the damage. Thought this was a fluke, so it was tested several times, and result was ... Golem was stronger without ONS .... which needs to be tested further to be sure. My warlock is lvl 40, golem is lvl 5, so that means 800-1200 blunt damage.

P.S. Great PvP's with you lately Val ..... very enjoyable, and i must say ... of all my adversaries, you are the "most respectful" of all !! GJ, keep up the good work.

Valorius · 07-07-2008, 11:48 PM

Thanks Jedi-X. You are one of Alsius' best Hunters IMO.

Having you, Comp, and Wudy all gunning for me at once the other day was no fun though. ;-P

BlooD · 07-07-2008, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi-x

Off Topic: .... We all know that onslought gives a blunt damage bonus. So why does it NOT work with a Warlock using Golem fist? I did several tests the other day with clanmates, and with ONS (lvl5) on both "normal" and "challenging" mobs, it either had no effect, or actually decreased the damage. Thought this was a fluke, so it was tested several times, and result was ... Golem was stronger without ONS .... which needs to be tested further to be sure. My warlock is lvl 40, golem is lvl 5, so that means 800-1200 blunt damage.

Golem fist does a fixed amount of damage, only is modified by the target defenses.

Onslaugth gives a +150 bonus to your normal damage, that means only the skills with +100% weapon damage will be boosted by it.

Jedi-x · 07-07-2008, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valorius

Thanks Jedi-X. You are one of Alsius' best Hunters IMO.

Having you, Comp, and Wudy all gunning for me at once the other day was no fun though. ;-P

That means alot coming from you Val .. thanks, seriously. It's always a pleasure to fight a hunter with "real skills" .. versus those that think they have skills. You are always a tuff oponent, and I don't think I've come out on top very many times, although with my new set-up, it's alot more damaging.

And thanks Blood ..... I did not know that it was this way, that clears things up for me, somewhat.

07-07-2008, 08:47 PM	#24
CumeriTarenes Baron Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 702	ah, Valorius changed her post and deleted ym quote about the "overpowered" ensnarre arrow. I am glad you realized how it was meant. When I first saw the quote and then your comment I thought __________________ dwarfen sniper pts Cumeri Tarenes and Hunti

07-07-2008, 10:25 PM	#26
Mage_pegusas Initiate Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gone, Part time.. ETA? Unsure :( Posts: 192	LOL LETS NERF ENSNARING ARROW! wtf. Jeez give over, some people wont be happy til hunters have to stand still and shoot, and do 100 dmg normal hits on an unbuffed mage. >.> Lets all sit around a camp fire and sing. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/patrickdavidson My Youtube Channel

07-07-2008, 11:35 PM	#27
Jedi-x Initiate Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida USA Posts: 106	The only thing overpowered with Ensnare, is that you can use it with DF .... at a distance !!!!! IMHO .... when these 2 are used together, either the range should be lessened, or the bonus from DF should be null if from a distance. Other than that, Ensnare is fine as it is. Off Topic: .... We all know that onslought gives a blunt damage bonus. So why does it NOT work with a Warlock using Golem fist? I did several tests the other day with clanmates, and with ONS (lvl5) on both "normal" and "challenging" mobs, it either had no effect, or actually decreased the damage. Thought this was a fluke, so it was tested several times, and result was ... Golem was stronger without ONS .... which needs to be tested further to be sure. My warlock is lvl 40, golem is lvl 5, so that means 800-1200 blunt damage. P.S. Great PvP's with you lately Val ..... very enjoyable, and i must say ... of all my adversaries, you are the "most respectful" of all !! GJ, keep up the good work. __________________ Jedi-x Hunter lvl 50 , Jedix Warlock lvl 45 , x Jedi x Barb lvl 49 Alsius Hunters of RA

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07-07-2008, 07:22 PM	#22
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	Unboosted, Ensnare lvl 5 does about 500-600dmg vs a lvl 50 mage, depending on bow. The 25/Slow viper longbow i used in the screen shot is 600+. And to do that you have to have lvl 19 scouting- something few hunters actually have. The range should be 25 like it was before IMO. The range was increased to compensate for the increased speed of onslaught too though. With 25 ensnare catching onslaughted players would be a good deal harder, and it's already hard now. Beyond the range i think it's fine though. The old fixed pierce damage ensnare arrow (the one that we had for probably 70% of my time playing in regnum) was such a weak spell that i had it on lvl 1. I didn't even use it at all. It was worse than shield pierce is now.

07-07-2008, 07:33 PM	#23
Angelwinged_Devil Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under your skin Posts: 1337 Posts: 2,490	you sound like a barb XD ensnaring arrow 1023 jajajajajajaa

07-07-2008, 09:18 PM	#25
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	I think ensnare is overpowered in the sense that it should be range 25.

07-07-2008, 11:48 PM	#28
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	Thanks Jedi-X. You are one of Alsius' best Hunters IMO. Having you, Comp, and Wudy all gunning for me at once the other day was no fun though. ;-P