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Old 07-11-2008, 12:31 PM   #51
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yes, they should have healing spells, and resurrect. DI would be also fine.
I pure warjurer is of course not what I exspect a conju to be. A conju without ressurecct is realy bad. It is very low lvl spell in healing tree and every conju should have it. From time to time I play a lvl 15 conju (lol) and even with him I have healing up to resurrect for the case someone is dieing when I come across the way. But I also have summon and magnification of course, to be able to kill mobs allone.

Thats fine, as long as they have up to ress.
So many times in war, i've had 'Pure warjus' here, i've been to about three fort wars, where NONE of the conjus had up to heal ally.

That really put warjus in the bad book for me, any conju with any setup is fine, as long as they have up to ress in healing tree. Its not that many points, come on!
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:10 PM   #52
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Thats fine, as long as they have up to ress.
So many times in war, i've had 'Pure warjus' here, i've been to about three fort wars, where NONE of the conjus had up to heal ally.

That really put warjus in the bad book for me, any conju with any setup is fine, as long as they have up to ress in healing tree. Its not that many points, come on!
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:48 PM   #53
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Could it be that Gigo really hasn't got a 100% warjurer setup? At least that was my impression from some other posts of him. He uses zarkit lv 4, the points went somewhere else, believe it or not .

And @ cumeri: There are quite some full support conjus who hunt all the time. And if you ask Mehgan, you will be told that using zarkit/mental/magnifications doesn't help vs sotw + confuse attacks at all.

With some high lv attack spells/summon you just gain more rp during hunts and have more fun with single enemies. But on the other hand single enemies shouldn't be a threat to your group, so from point of group effectiveness it's just wasted points. mental spells on low lv for tactical purposes are quite ok though (with my old setup a few months ago I killed a warlock with my last breath and ivy lv 3 for 18 rp since the rest already died, resisting/evading 3 ambush and 1 silence during the cast time with dome + mind blank)
On the other hand: whenever your allies drag some attention it is more effective to use a full support setup. It doesn't necessarily depend on the number of your allies, sometimes it is just the characters reputation which makes people not focussing too much on the conjurer I guess, lol.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:00 PM   #54
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sorry for offtopic, but I personally think that conjus should not be only configured to support. For their own fun they should have some usefull attack spells, if points allow it they can even have a zarkit. A warjurer is quite effective in small hunting parties. Of course he should have helaing spells and should give out mana and in fort wwars full support conjus are more effective. But seriously, the game is not just fort war....it's also hunting.

This way a conju would not be that pissed if he is confused I think. But that's just my opinion.
I agree with you about the offense in the setup, but not about the zarkits. They screw up your allies sight lines. And half the time they end up just getting stolen and used against you.

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They can be offensive, but as long as they have heal, ress and regen AT LEAST.

I asked for a heal during a war, got about 4 responses "I'm Warju, got no heal"
And when you die, at an enemy fort, conjurers walk past, a mate goes "Revivian ______ aca" or whatever, and they go "Dont have"

AS long as they have ress and heal, thats all that is needed. If you dont have heal spells, why even be a bloody conju! <thats what i meant>
Any high lvl conj who doesnt even have heal/rez really has no idea what he is doing, and is a huge detriment to the team.

Warlocks can actually be set up to be pretty good support players too. We have a fairly low level (maybe lvl 40?) lock in Syrtis named Eldeyken(sp?) who has lvl 4 cat reflexes, wits, bless, and bless weapon. He may not do any damage, but he makes any party immensely stronger, probably stronger than if he was a lvl 50 offensive warlock.

The other day we were fighting by PB, and i ran into a low 40s mage. With all the buffs he gave me plus DF, i killed the mage in 4 regular arrow attacks. LOL.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:28 PM   #55
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...Any high lvl conj who doesnt even have heal/rez really has no idea what he is doing, and is a huge detriment to the team.

Warlocks can actually be set up to be pretty good support players too. We have a fairly low level (maybe lvl 40?) lock in Syrtis named Eldeyken(sp?) who has lvl 4 cat reflexes, wits, bless, and bless weapon. He may not do any damage, but he makes any party immensely stronger, probably stronger than if he was a lvl 50 offensive warlock.

The other day we were fighting by PB, and i ran into a low 40s mage. With all the buffs he gave me plus DF, i killed the mage in 4 regular arrow attacks. LOL.
Tell me bout it, all those times at a fort war i had to ress back to samal save because no conju even had heal ally >.<
I know a lock that got echantments up instead of mental, boy i tell ya what, makes a team offensive and still looks after himself
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:20 AM   #56
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Here's a screen shot of Eldekyen's handiwork. 458-547 regular bow attack with DF cast!!!

I wonder if he gets many RP in these battles when he buffs us all, he should, because my character is like a killing maching when buffed to that extent.

What a way for a low lvl warlock to dominate the battlefield without ever firing a single shot. You may never see his name in your log as his enemy, but HE is a great player. What an asset to our realm.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:27 AM   #57
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so, gigo was banned.....
/me checks topic title
yea, gigo was banned
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Old 07-12-2008, 03:35 PM   #58
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Not anymore, apparently.
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:25 PM   #59
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that was reminder on topic.
gigo pmed me yesterday, and i know his status.
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:29 PM   #60
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that was reminder on topic.
gigo pmed me yesterday, and i know his status.
shrug.
3 bans means perma ban.

Knowing his status is easy as cheking his public profile
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...r.php?u=120652
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