Leveling impossible after update

[Angel_de_Combate]

Well to mimic real life..i like having little money..means i have to work harder...figure what armor i can buy, how many arrows i can etc.. It sucks but you get on with it, <feels quite sad>, all this moaning is really getting to me...

[Miraculix]

Originally Posted by Gravat

Hm. How I see it, if you had money before the gold vacuum you're fine. This was illustrated by Kampfsalami's post in this thread, the hardship comes from trying to raise gold from nothing under the new conditions.

On my Horus knight, quests are running out for him now. I'll have to sell whatever decent items I loot to friends for questionable prices. If I don't do that I'll end up having to make a new character to run through the early quests for gold so I can repair.

Well the problem never existed on Horus to begin with, the values over there should be such that income matches expenses to begin with. But that would mean 2 different systems for the 2 servers, and I don't think this would go well with updating and hotfixing the 2 servers

Kailer am I guessing right again?

[Envy]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

Well the problem never existed on Horus to begin with, the values over there should be such that income matches expenses to begin with. But that would mean 2 different systems for the 2 servers, and I don't think this would go well with updating and hotfixing the 2 servers

Kailer am I guessing right again?

Could be right. All I can say is good luck to those making Knights on Horus, for when the quests run out.

And to those with a "laissez faire" outlook, consider the warriors I'll see how things are when I get into the 40s.

[Malik2]

I can't speak for others, but from my experience the economy seems to be the same at both servers.

Before the economic update, months ago, I had well over 250,000 gold at lvl 16, even with buying new armor and weapons at each level.

Now at lvl 18, I think I topped 85,000 gold and have bought little to no armor or weapons...I think I have reparied twice total...so little to no expenses.

Drops have been pretty good, though at levels much lower than I need typically. Usually when fighting mobs that are normal for me, any drop is at least two levels below my current usually lower, but with no shortage of special items. Resale is pretty slim as well. Orcs, for instance, still give gold, grunts give less than 10 typically and savage orcs give less than 14.

At these lower levesl I don't see too much of a problem. Even if I was an archer I could see if I were wily, prospering in this atmosphere. At the same time, at higher levels, like Val and Mira are saying, money could be a problem.

[Angel_de_Combate]

Originally Posted by Malik2

I can't speak for others, but from my experience the economy seems to be the same at both servers.

Before the economic update, months ago, I had well over 250,000 gold at lvl 16, even with buying new armor and weapons at each level.

Now at lvl 18, I think I topped 85,000 gold and have bought little to no armor or weapons...I think I have reparied twice total...so little to no expenses.

Drops have been pretty good, though at levels much lower than I need typically. Usually when fighting mobs that are normal for me, any drop is at least two levels below my current usually lower, but with no shortage of special items. Resale is pretty slim as well. Orcs, for instance, still give gold, grunts give less than 10 typically and savage orcs give less than 14.

At these lower levesl I don't see too much of a problem. Even if I was an archer I could see if I were wily, prospering in this atmosphere. At the same time, at higher levels, like Val and Mira are saying, money could be a problem.

Well i just have to buy new armor and new bows...but i wudnt say i was suffering..i have friends i can lend money from..who are richer than me, so its all good. but 250k at lvl 16 would be nice lol

[Foggia]

And what about meeles on horus? We dont have any saved up money on other characters. With my barb (yes, we also have this problem, not only knights) Im trying to save up as much money as I can and these are results(Im a 26 lvl barb):

1. I have done all quests for lvls 1-23 (saving the rest of them for further lvling).
2. I have neither bought any armor, nor repaired my old one (everything I've worn came from loot/quests. Because Im not lucky highest armor I've had was for lvl 12, last part has broken on lvl 19 or 20, or so, and since then Im lvling completely naked).
3. Weapons - I've bought one for lvl 14, found one on lvl 17 and bought one on lvl 23.
4. I've sold all loot I found, all weapons I got from quests (here we have a problem for barbs - every class BUT barb gets from runestones quest serie weapon for almost every lvl - mages got staffs, archers bows, knight - weapons for them. But barb as well as knight gets 1 handed weapon which he cant actually use, because he sucks with it. Remember that 2h barb weapons are noticably more expensive than 1h knight ones. Example - 23lvl 1h sword - 38k. 2h sword - 51k. Difference raises with lvl.)
5. Even with these huge sacrifices I have earned only 217k gold (minus 2 weapon costs). From pure curiosity I've checked how much gold I'd have to spend to buy a new weapon + full armor. Summing up it costs over 118k gold. Over a half gold I've earned during whole game to buy new stuff for 1, still low, lvl... There is smth unfair here, imho.

Spent some time on writing this post, checking different things I've posted here in game, cant remember if I've written everything I wanted (read: every disadvantages of actual eco situation for barbs/knights), actually Im pretty sure its not all, but I cant remind myself at this moment other troubles I've had.
I really do like many things in this game, its actually 1st time ever Im complaining about smth openly on the forum, but actual economy has to change...


/edit:
Oh, yes, thing I forgot about:
This eco is a deadly combination with fatigue system. Mobs on lvl 26 do to my unarmored barb as high dmg as mobs on lvl 45 do to my lvl 43 fully armored barb. Result? I can kill 3-5 mobs killed MAX (when majority of my hits arent evaded/resisted), then I have to rest. This way fatigue reaches me after pretty few kills (comparing to other classes) and its pretty hard to lvl (thank God I've met 2 friendly conjus here who enable me to lvl effective - without them I would barely do lvl 19-20 max.)