So what did Ignis wish for THIS time? - Page 5

Thistle · 07-17-2009, 06:37 PM

Regarding the recent opening of the Syrtis (Horus) gates by the iggies. The Nite Crew and a few other players were enjoying a really good fight with the Alsians at Trelle when the Iggies decided to attack the Syrtan forts and castle. That put an end to our fun as we all suicided (Alsius got a bit of free RP... lucky them) to get back to our own territory to try to retake our forts and castle.

Out of habit, whenever I find someone in the warzone who I haven't seen before, I add them to my friends list. If they are high enough to play in the warzone (or not but come anyway) they are on my list. We typically play beginning at 8pm to 11pm Eastern (GMT -4 currently). The night I'm talking about, my friends list showed 10 people online (not including the low level players that haven't come to the warzone yet). Of those, 6 or 7 were level 50 and the others were below 40.

We arrived at Alga to discover easily 10 Ignis players in the fort. A couple other players scouted Herb and EFE and found better than 15 players at each location. So, totally outnumbered again with no chance of taking anything back, we went to the gate. Unfortunately, I had to go to bed... my pumpkin was about to expire and staying up for who knows how long to defend the gate just wasn't an option. That left 5 or 6 level 50 players (2 barbs, 1 or 2 hunters, 1 marx and ???) at the gate and a few very low level players from the inner realm. After I logged off, Ack told me that one of the tracks from our gate revealed 43 enemies grouping for the attack. It was no big surprise when Ack came to bed shortly thereafter and told me that it took about 30 seconds for the gate to go down. I appreciate that the Iggies organized themselves and had a large number show up for the invasion. It's a shame that we weren't able to give them more of a challenge but they clearly have the time zone advantage over us in the western hemisphere's evenings.

The whole point to this post is that I don't think it's always apathy on the part of Syrtans. When the Nite Crew is playing, there are often fewer than 15 high level players online. We can't expect people to stay up all night long or neglect family or jobs to play a game. I won't be put in a position where I lose sleep (not much anyway) because the Iggies are invading at night. We can't win against their numbers until we have a stronger player base at night.
I don't play during the European evening hours very often so I'm not really sure what the dynamics are then. Maybe someone who plays during those times will add a comment.

Now then... just to point out the reality of what someone described as a Syrtan failed invasion a while back. Did you really think that we were seriously trying to invade? Sure, the Nite Crew took your forts and your castle. We did it with between 8 and 12 people. We had no intention of invading. We just wanted to wake you up and make you fight. Seems it worked. You did come to the warzone and retake your fortifications but not without dropping a bit of RP in our laps in the process. Thanks for the fight!

Thistle

UmarilsStillHere · 07-17-2009, 06:41 PM

Acctualy you would be suprised about the chat going on, one statement was, Ignis just camp everything all the time, so let them, we will go fight goats and I bet they will do nothing, another was they gave us -xp I dont want to fight them.

Low and behold, we had many fights at Trele/Alga ping pong, and Ignis were no were to be seen for the several hours I was on, camping something Id bet. Alsius were putting up great fights and were on top of us in terms of numbers quite often, a nice change for them

Also remember a lot of Syrtis are sick of Ignis tactics, wait at save for half an hour for zerg to build, sultar everything and take fort in 5 mins, tends to be what happens quite a lot, and yes it is partially syrtis fault since many of us choose to fight about 50m from the save rathter than at the fort...

platyna · 07-17-2009, 06:56 PM

I am not going to bitch about -xp thing - if NGD made it available for players we shouldn't be suprised they used it.

One thing I will criticize are aforementioned myths, Ignis can only handle Syrtis when they are outnumbering us or when there are just newbies online (but well I remember situation when a true zerg nof newbies performed quite well).

Ignis knows it very well that's why they were waiting for dead hours for Syrtis - on the Invasion days, I had some maintenance works to perform and monitor the results, so I got up at 4 AM CEST, I felt like I am alone on Syrtis - no one on CS, no one at friend list online, at about 5:30 you have invaded.

I don't blame you - it is obvious design flaw of the game, quite hard to be worked on (so I underestand NGD too), but don't say stuff like that you can defaut us in 3:1 ratio - you can't.

Regards.

thegordo · 07-17-2009, 07:23 PM

Yeah im on gmt time, part of the plans this time to pull it off and get the gems. Meant i stayed up all night n went sleep at 9am, but was well worth it. We had 2 choices all in all when we opened the portal, the "Can only be one" Dragonic gem, or 2 hurt another realm... So we opted for the hurt another realm, and it seems to have caused many ripples in the pond. The games ultimate goals as i see it is to capture the gems from the enemy realms and open your portal, this can only be achieved with teamwork and communication, timing, and luck are factors also... but ya know... thats the way the cookie crumbles as we say, hard cheese as we say... Be proud you syrts of our hatred of you in a way that we make sure your grinders get damaged, thus it effects your realm as a whole... mind you, if you lot spent more time playing and getting on rather then flaming threads on here then you too may get to..."cough" open a portal

Mrreality13 · 07-17-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyst

I appreciate that the Iggies organized themselves and had a large number show up for the invasion.

Thistle

Thats the whole key despite our inner realm soap opera's we still as A REALM managed to do it ,i actually took a nap for a few b4 we did it--lol

UmarilsStillHere · 07-17-2009, 07:54 PM

Gordo, saying "thats just the way it is, deal with it" dosnt realy cut it, the whole invasions system is flawed, yes a lot of planning went into your invasions, as did our (few) invasions, but in the case of both plans they exploit a huge whole in invasions balance, timezones, by attacking when the enemy has next to no high levels online you walk through whats ment to be a very difficult system. You got the gate down in under 60 seconds, so dont anyone say you had hardly any players,

Anyway, just saying meh deal with it, is like me coming to your house, taking a dump on your sofa and walking off, then saying meh deal with it, I made the effort to come to your house. But as a twist, you need to leave it there for a week.

-Edge- · 07-17-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by platyna

Ignis knows it very well that's why they were waiting for dead hours for Syrtis - on the Invasion days, I had some maintenance works to perform and monitor the results, so I got up at 4 AM CEST, I felt like I am alone on Syrtis - no one on CS, no one at friend list online, at about 5:30 you have invaded.

I don't blame you - it is obvious design flaw of the game, quite hard to be worked on (so I underestand NGD too), but don't say stuff like that you can defaut us in 3:1 ratio - you can't.

The invasion was setup to fit everyone's time. Because it was organized so that everyone could partake in it. It was the morning here in GMT+1 which is early for Europeans, and pretty late for Americans, contrary to the popular belief that Ignis invades the other way around. This time it was more in favor Syrtis I would say timewise.

Really, can you please just drop the stupid time crap? I understand you like to stand out like some elite, but its not anyone's fault that they live on the other side of the world. You know damn well why things went the way they did. I just gone done watching the videos from last nights invasion and to be honest Syrtis was at its worst, kind of rampaging wherever it could gnaw its teeth into via a lot of unorganized flanking and rushing.

3:1 ratio's happen quite frequently. Its called defending *surprise*
The defenders have defense, (I know its astonishing) which helps them survive better.

Mashu · 07-17-2009, 09:27 PM

Syrtis always whine and moan on forums about how weak Thorkul is, how strong Evedim is(they kill it more then Ignis do Dean), how unfair balance is, how unfair invasion times are and other trolling... PLONK

So we should tell You, ok we are organising invasion at ...<here time> be prepared ?
People being that stupid deserve stacking negative bonus everyday for years!

Actually more people taking part in invasion were European time and it was morning for us, but we decided to invade. So saying that we are Americans is another trolling..

ENJOY Your negative bonus while we still have ours

Its nice to lvl up conjurers before 1.0.7

Syrtis should understand one thing "Stop crying and whining when You lose cause Regnum will never be developed to suite one realm needs which is the most crying one!!" You wont achieve anything except spamming forums.
You had the same chance to invade!!

Finally Syrtis are heavy save campers I can provide tons of screenshots proving that, load of syrtis camping samal save to kill one Ignis that just spawned there. Thats piftul, so if You want to save camp, now You finally have the reason, I hope You enjoy it, next time if we manage to get all gems I vote the same way

AntibioTsu · 07-17-2009, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mashu

ENJOY Your negative bonus while we still have ours

Its nice to lvl up conjurers before 1.0.7

Syrtis should understand one thing "Stop crying and whining when You lose cause Regnum will never be developed to suite one realm needs which is the most crying one!!" You wont achieve anything except spamming forums.
You had the same chance to invade!!

Hahaha, dont worry, we WILL enjoy ;D . Having less 15% exp means we'll spend 15% more time grinding to get that lost exp, which means less time doing war with you ... oh wait.... that was your plan right?

Errr, whatever; The only good thing about invasions is that you can go inside other realm's Inner Zone, and check out the landscape and do a little travelling.

PS: Alsius is really nice, and those yetis are awesome *.*

w_larsen · 07-17-2009, 10:47 PM

as we can plainly see now, syrtis can organise an invasion.
of course it's alsius again. my suspecting about lack of balls still stands.

(ofc i understand that alsians did fail miserably (only 4 survided sultars at gate, of whoom 2 were inside), but well... that's how we learn. turns out that for many of dayshift it was first invasion ever

)

EDIT: of course, when syrtis took trele, ignis took aggers. as usual.

07-17-2009, 06:41 PM	#42
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Acctualy you would be suprised about the chat going on, one statement was, Ignis just camp everything all the time, so let them, we will go fight goats and I bet they will do nothing, another was they gave us -xp I dont want to fight them. Low and behold, we had many fights at Trele/Alga ping pong, and Ignis were no were to be seen for the several hours I was on, camping something Id bet. Alsius were putting up great fights and were on top of us in terms of numbers quite often, a nice change for them Also remember a lot of Syrtis are sick of Ignis tactics, wait at save for half an hour for zerg to build, sultar everything and take fort in 5 mins, tends to be what happens quite a lot, and yes it is partially syrtis fault since many of us choose to fight about 50m from the save rathter than at the fort... __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

07-17-2009, 06:56 PM	#43
platyna Initiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 234	I am not going to bitch about -xp thing - if NGD made it available for players we shouldn't be suprised they used it. One thing I will criticize are aforementioned myths, Ignis can only handle Syrtis when they are outnumbering us or when there are just newbies online (but well I remember situation when a true zerg nof newbies performed quite well). Ignis knows it very well that's why they were waiting for dead hours for Syrtis - on the Invasion days, I had some maintenance works to perform and monitor the results, so I got up at 4 AM CEST, I felt like I am alone on Syrtis - no one on CS, no one at friend list online, at about 5:30 you have invaded. I don't blame you - it is obvious design flaw of the game, quite hard to be worked on (so I underestand NGD too), but don't say stuff like that you can defaut us in 3:1 ratio - you can't. Regards. __________________ Syrtis, Horus: Platyna (Conjurer), Platyna Ahn (Warlock), Platyna Ida (Hunter), Platyna Ira (Barbarian)

07-17-2009, 07:54 PM	#46
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Gordo, saying "thats just the way it is, deal with it" dosnt realy cut it, the whole invasions system is flawed, yes a lot of planning went into your invasions, as did our (few) invasions, but in the case of both plans they exploit a huge whole in invasions balance, timezones, by attacking when the enemy has next to no high levels online you walk through whats ment to be a very difficult system. You got the gate down in under 60 seconds, so dont anyone say you had hardly any players, Anyway, just saying meh deal with it, is like me coming to your house, taking a dump on your sofa and walking off, then saying meh deal with it, I made the effort to come to your house. But as a twist, you need to leave it there for a week. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

07-17-2009, 09:27 PM	#48
Mashu Master Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 541	Syrtis always whine and moan on forums about how weak Thorkul is, how strong Evedim is(they kill it more then Ignis do Dean), how unfair balance is, how unfair invasion times are and other trolling... PLONK So we should tell You, ok we are organising invasion at ...<here time> be prepared ? People being that stupid deserve stacking negative bonus everyday for years! Actually more people taking part in invasion were European time and it was morning for us, but we decided to invade. So saying that we are Americans is another trolling.. ENJOY Your negative bonus while we still have ours Its nice to lvl up conjurers before 1.0.7 Syrtis should understand one thing "Stop crying and whining when You lose cause Regnum will never be developed to suite one realm needs which is the most crying one!!" You wont achieve anything except spamming forums. You had the same chance to invade!! Finally Syrtis are heavy save campers I can provide tons of screenshots proving that, load of syrtis camping samal save to kill one Ignis that just spawned there. Thats piftul, so if You want to save camp, now You finally have the reason, I hope You enjoy it, next time if we manage to get all gems I vote the same way Last edited by Mashu; 07-17-2009 at 10:09 PM.

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07-17-2009, 06:37 PM	#41
Thistle Pledge Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6	Regarding the recent opening of the Syrtis (Horus) gates by the iggies. The Nite Crew and a few other players were enjoying a really good fight with the Alsians at Trelle when the Iggies decided to attack the Syrtan forts and castle. That put an end to our fun as we all suicided (Alsius got a bit of free RP... lucky them) to get back to our own territory to try to retake our forts and castle. Out of habit, whenever I find someone in the warzone who I haven't seen before, I add them to my friends list. If they are high enough to play in the warzone (or not but come anyway) they are on my list. We typically play beginning at 8pm to 11pm Eastern (GMT -4 currently). The night I'm talking about, my friends list showed 10 people online (not including the low level players that haven't come to the warzone yet). Of those, 6 or 7 were level 50 and the others were below 40. We arrived at Alga to discover easily 10 Ignis players in the fort. A couple other players scouted Herb and EFE and found better than 15 players at each location. So, totally outnumbered again with no chance of taking anything back, we went to the gate. Unfortunately, I had to go to bed... my pumpkin was about to expire and staying up for who knows how long to defend the gate just wasn't an option. That left 5 or 6 level 50 players (2 barbs, 1 or 2 hunters, 1 marx and ???) at the gate and a few very low level players from the inner realm. After I logged off, Ack told me that one of the tracks from our gate revealed 43 enemies grouping for the attack. It was no big surprise when Ack came to bed shortly thereafter and told me that it took about 30 seconds for the gate to go down. I appreciate that the Iggies organized themselves and had a large number show up for the invasion. It's a shame that we weren't able to give them more of a challenge but they clearly have the time zone advantage over us in the western hemisphere's evenings. The whole point to this post is that I don't think it's always apathy on the part of Syrtans. When the Nite Crew is playing, there are often fewer than 15 high level players online. We can't expect people to stay up all night long or neglect family or jobs to play a game. I won't be put in a position where I lose sleep (not much anyway) because the Iggies are invading at night. We can't win against their numbers until we have a stronger player base at night. I don't play during the European evening hours very often so I'm not really sure what the dynamics are then. Maybe someone who plays during those times will add a comment. Now then... just to point out the reality of what someone described as a Syrtan failed invasion a while back. Did you really think that we were seriously trying to invade? Sure, the Nite Crew took your forts and your castle. We did it with between 8 and 12 people. We had no intention of invading. We just wanted to wake you up and make you fight. Seems it worked. You did come to the warzone and retake your fortifications but not without dropping a bit of RP in our laps in the process. Thanks for the fight! Thistle

07-17-2009, 07:23 PM	#44
thegordo Pledge Join Date: May 2009 Location: London UK Posts: 14	Yeah im on gmt time, part of the plans this time to pull it off and get the gems. Meant i stayed up all night n went sleep at 9am, but was well worth it. We had 2 choices all in all when we opened the portal, the "Can only be one" Dragonic gem, or 2 hurt another realm... So we opted for the hurt another realm, and it seems to have caused many ripples in the pond. The games ultimate goals as i see it is to capture the gems from the enemy realms and open your portal, this can only be achieved with teamwork and communication, timing, and luck are factors also... but ya know... thats the way the cookie crumbles as we say, hard cheese as we say... Be proud you syrts of our hatred of you in a way that we make sure your grinders get damaged, thus it effects your realm as a whole... mind you, if you lot spent more time playing and getting on rather then flaming threads on here then you too may get to..."cough" open a portal

07-17-2009, 10:47 PM	#50
w_larsen Initiate Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 111	as we can plainly see now, syrtis can organise an invasion. of course it's alsius again. my suspecting about lack of balls still stands. (ofc i understand that alsians did fail miserably (only 4 survided sultars at gate, of whoom 2 were inside), but well... that's how we learn. turns out that for many of dayshift it was first invasion ever ) EDIT: of course, when syrtis took trele, ignis took aggers. as usual.