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Old 07-17-2009, 11:20 PM   #51
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as we can plainly see now, syrtis can organise an invasion.
In fact it wasn't organized invasion, just it happened so that people
at trelle crying "imperia" accidentally outnumbered those crying
"I don't care about invasions", "Invasions are flawed" etc.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:42 PM   #52
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i would be super pissed if i was a few hundred k from lvl 50 and trying to do it with no boosters or support...like someone pointed out, its a psychological thing.
Well most of us who get to 49 have boosters thus negateing -xp

I'll still be gradding soon no matter how much -xp
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Old 07-18-2009, 12:26 AM   #53
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Personally, I voted for "There can be only one" and I dislike forcing everyone to grind more. Its annoying, pointless and all it does is cause less war.

Everything everyone accuses everyone else of is true for all realms. However, if you're bitching about Ignis camping in Samal, I would have to question your actual drive to war. If all you want to do is take empty forts and just sit in them how are you any better than those you accuse of camping. Part of war is defending, so why not defend your own forts when there isn't anything else to do.
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Old 07-18-2009, 12:43 AM   #54
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I think the samal camping accusations are rather funny, we don't camp samal. What you're seeing is us looking for a warzone group, and samal is the place to find one. If an Ignis player is looking for some action in the warzone we go sit around in samal, and within 15-20 minutes you're almost guaranteed to head off to aggy or herb.

Gordoarcane is probably at samal 90% of the time he's online, but it's not like Gordo logs on every day saying to himself, "Yes, another fun-filled day of sitting 1 meter down on the samal ramp, staring out toward the limit." Gordo is just lookin' for a piece of the action.

As far as this negative xp whining goes... Syrtis deserves it. I'm tired of being shat upon by italians over and over on top of my save. I'm tired of having to deal with glitchers that walk through fort and castle walls. I'm tired of syrtis players making ignis chars and spamming our realm chat with nonsense. I'm tired of syrtis glitching to get gems from other realms.

Yes I know not all of syrtis do those things. Yes I know you think it's not fair to punish the whole realm for those things. No, I don't care. The cheaters, save campers, and ignis-realm-chat-spammers are on the same team as the fair players, and there's no way to pick and choose which players get negative xp and which don't. Sorry.

Finally, I'd like to give some acknowledgment for the syrtis "night crew" that have to deal with invasions. You guys are always outnumbered, and you try your best. I don't even think I've seen you guys try to win by glitching (amazing, eh?). It's a shame that you guys are the ones that get steam rolled.

P.S. Gordo you're my hero!
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:00 AM   #55
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For a few months I never even went into Alsius. There is no point in fighting there.
agreed. they fight back for 10 mins then they go back to grinding. worst fights ever since invasions popped in were and still are vs alsius. shame, specially when i remember some really epic battles vs them while tyr's zorn was still playing.
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Finally Syrtis are heavy save campers I can provide tons of screenshots proving that, load of syrtis camping samal save to kill one Ignis that just spawned there. Thats piftul, so if You want to save camp, now You finally have the reason, I hope You enjoy it, next time if we manage to get all gems I vote the same way
your whole post is crap (like usual) but this paragraph really ticked me off into saying that you're a complete fucking idiot for a few reasons. first and foremost, because there is no such thing as save camping, second - even if you do feel camped you can always rezz at wall, third - if we control samal then the save isn't really yours, is it now? fourth - if you can't kick us out of your realm it's your fucking fault.
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As far as this negative xp whining goes... Syrtis deserves it. I'm tired of being shat upon by italians over and over on top of my save.
you sound like a tired man, go get some sleep. oh btw, let me quote myself on what i just wrote to mashu:
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third - if we control samal then the save isn't really yours, is it now? fourth - if you can't kick us out of your realm it's your fucking fault.
so check it, it's not italians that are to blame, it's your own realm who can't kick them out.

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Old 07-18-2009, 02:37 AM   #56
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if we control samal then the save isn't really yours, is it now? fourth - if you can't kick us out of your realm it's your fucking fault.
so check it, it's not italians that are to blame, it's your own realm who can't kick them out.
If you control samal, the save is still ours. We're the only ones that can save there, and the save isn't inside the fort, it's just near it. Anyway, most of the time the italians don't control the fort. They'll sit at shaan save camping the same people over and over for hours, with no intention of going to any fort or to shaan. And as for not being able to kick them out, that's actually not the case. We can kick out syrtis over and over, but since you don't stay dead you keep coming back. The only way to stop that is to camp our territory, which drives you people to complain about us camping our stuff on the forums. So which is it Nightchill, do we camp our territory or not?
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:20 AM   #57
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But you often don't control samal when you camp the save, and don't bother to try and take it. Tsk. Clearly we should spawn magical extra allies whenever someone comes near our saves to get rid of them.
Saying that save camping doesn't exist is an outright lie, Nightchill. You know it does. Even people from your own realm have said things like "I'll still savecamp because I don't care about the -RP"

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It must be some kind of miracle that whenever I'm on and trot past samal to see if there's anyone ready to form a warzone party and venture off to capture herb or mess with grinders somewhere, there's no-one there (except sometime a bunch of Ghosts who appear to be nonresponsive and must be asumed to be afk or ignoring me for some reason *shrug*). In fact the only times when significant numbers are on in Ignis at all in the times I play is when there's an organised invasion happening and the Americans have stayed up late and the Europeans (most of our attacking force) have got up early or when we've managed to raise the alarm about Syrtis trying to invade - so you can put the timezones theory to rest as well. Alsius only seem to try invasions at these so called ‘peak’ times.
Because I so rarely see other people from my own realm in the warzone I'll often venture out into Syrtis and trawl Eferias beach, and even then finding an enemy is such a surprise that I forget to buff properly and get my ass handed to me by a level 45 hunter when I attack them. More usually when I find no-one I might fall back on hunting in Alsius where I'm more liable to find Syrtians hunting than any Alsians. I was pleasantly surprised this week to find Alsian hunters running around Syrtis for once (by the way I don't appreciated being clapped at for actually bothering to fight rather than make a pathetic attempt at escape which will never work. One barbarian can never outdistance a hunter and I die because I lag. If only people would run in a bloody straight line I could hit them a couple of times before doing so).

Oh and for the reason we attack Alsius forts? I'm not sure, but I think it has something to do with Alsius actually bothering to come and try to take them back with less than three times the people we have. Although it could be because certain vocal individuals shout out "No! Aggers!" even when I'm crying out to attack Syrtis. Whatever, normally when I venture into Alsius with a fort taking group it's retaliation for you guys picking on Menirah.

The "fort camping" is one of the reasons I made the suggestion I did about moving them to the rivers.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:33 AM   #58
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problem is ,as attacker, you can got up early once, but as defender, they need get up early everyday, could they? or can you tell them the day you will make invasion?

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Old 07-18-2009, 06:54 AM   #59
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problem is ,as attacker, you can got up early once, but as defender, they need get up early everyday, could they? or can you tell them the day you will make invasion?
This is a definite problem, and I for one think the timing issues might stem from the fact that the server is located on the geographically opposite side of the internet from a whole lot of people and marginalises one third of time zones. It's fair to say there's a big load of no-one on at the same time as me because asia-america-sweden will never give good enough latency and any internet pipes going across continental asia through the middle east and then europe are completely useless. I've stayed on RO for 30 hours straight once and I noticed that for about ten hours in the day there is a huge lack of anyone in any realm on (unless syrtis and alsius spend the same 10 hours a day grinding inside realm only). Similarly if the server was hosted in, say, Japan, you'd see only people from these ten hours (and maybe some Americans).

There, I've finally said it. I've been wanting to for months.
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:29 AM   #60
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But you often don't control samal when you camp the save, and don't bother to try and take it. Tsk. Clearly we should spawn magical extra allies whenever someone comes near our saves to get rid of them.
Saying that save camping doesn't exist is an outright lie, Nightchill. You know it does. Even people from your own realm have said things like "I'll still savecamp because I don't care about the -RP"
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second - even if you do feel camped you can always rezz at wall, third - if we control samal then the save isn't really yours, is it now? fourth - if you can't kick us out of your realm it's your fucking fault.
and in addition to that, savecamp is just an old term, there really is no such thing and if you get killed at save repeatedly that means you're too dumb to rezz at wall or you just want to bitch all over forums.
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If you control samal, the save is still ours.
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And as for not being able to kick them out, that's actually not the case. We can kick out syrtis over and over, but since you don't stay dead you keep coming back.
1) no it's not
2) then why do you bitch about italians if you can keep them out of your realm? obviously you can't.
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