Something about marks.

LoveleHaven · 11-10-2009, 07:41 PM

I see a lot of classes got nerfed by along time. What is up with the marksman? I wanna come back playing as a marks since it's my favourite char at fort wars? Is the marks still ok for pvp?

Thank for answers and rock on

UmarilsStillHere · 11-10-2009, 08:15 PM

Most Arrow tree spells are no longer instant, mostly 1sec casts, and Ds is only 20% on level 5, ranged 30, thats only recent changes I can think of.

e30G · 11-11-2009, 12:14 AM

You forgot the part where ranged vs ranged pvp involves standing like a turret while trying to get the most hits in as fast as possible... Well a hunter can still move though, since his pet can still hit while he runs around.

frank1216 · 11-11-2009, 07:33 AM

When you walk backwards now you have to wait more time to shoot next arrow, very static gameplaying now and also terrible to grind :S

LoveleHaven · 11-11-2009, 09:21 AM

Aw =(( Too bad I love marks ... but i'm still gonna make 1 :P Thanks for posting guys.

David-Ignis · 11-12-2009, 10:38 PM

Marksman is still a very good class! of course it has been super-nerfed but if you are an experienced (or skilled) player you can manage to do good things in every situation, you can still beat everyone in pvp and in rvr is nor that bad.
This way I do not mean marks is perfect.. far from this.. now it needs changes to some spells (such as DS, Recharged arrow---too mana the most important), and to normal hits speed/damage (slow and low normal hits are not so usefull, and you need lots of mana).
Regards

CumeriTarenes · 11-12-2009, 10:53 PM

Another change I can think of is far longer cooldown for ethereal arrow and arcana strike. Of course marksman are also effected by changes in evasion tree, which is mainly acrobatic and spell elude. Low profil is harder to get now.

In RvR marks cannot have big impacts anymore because of constant lack of mana since mana communion was nerfed.

Movement speed was increased for all classes. That means marks as class with most range lost power due to the fact that enemies can run in range easier...or run out of range easier and run away. Marksman has no spell to avoid enemy running away in long range because winter stroke was changed to range 30. Well...you could use lightning arrow....but it's area spell with much mana cost and long cooldown.

UmarilsStillHere · 11-13-2009, 05:06 PM

You can still move when shooting, just not nearly as much, but if you time it right you can still slide 2/3 feet with a med bow, not sure about slow/fast

LoveleHaven · 11-13-2009, 05:21 PM

Yea I saw that moving backwards is really bad right now.

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Hamster_of_sorrow · 11-19-2009, 02:06 PM

I had a marks lvl 36 when the nerf hammer came down. ever since then, playing a marks was more pain than it was worth. imo, marks arent worth the effort (this is probably because i didnt like marks to begin with and i only made it as a noob because i thought it would be cool).

I made a barbarian after nerf (lvl 43 now XD) and i like it much more than marks. that is more my style of fighting tho. all up in your face, not caring about the pain and just making you hurt more than you thought possible.

11-10-2009, 07:41 PM	#1
LoveleHaven Initiate Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 200	Something about marks. I see a lot of classes got nerfed by along time. What is up with the marksman? I wanna come back playing as a marks since it's my favourite char at fort wars? Is the marks still ok for pvp? Thank for answers and rock on __________________ Lovele - Active - Haven - Marksman I love rock'n'roll

11-10-2009, 08:15 PM	#2
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Most Arrow tree spells are no longer instant, mostly 1sec casts, and Ds is only 20% on level 5, ranged 30, thats only recent changes I can think of. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

11-11-2009, 12:14 AM	#3
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	You forgot the part where ranged vs ranged pvp involves standing like a turret while trying to get the most hits in as fast as possible... Well a hunter can still move though, since his pet can still hit while he runs around. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

11-11-2009, 07:33 AM	#4
frank1216 Master Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 310	When you walk backwards now you have to wait more time to shoot next arrow, very static gameplaying now and also terrible to grind :S __________________ Proud to be in the most beautiful realm: Syrtis LOTR-Gek, level 50 marksman.

11-11-2009, 09:21 AM	#5
LoveleHaven Initiate Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 200	Aw =(( Too bad I love marks ... but i'm still gonna make 1 :P Thanks for posting guys. __________________ Lovele - Active - Haven - Marksman I love rock'n'roll

11-12-2009, 10:38 PM	#6
David-Ignis Apprentice Join Date: May 2008 Location: California, USA Posts: 86	Marksman is still a very good class! of course it has been super-nerfed but if you are an experienced (or skilled) player you can manage to do good things in every situation, you can still beat everyone in pvp and in rvr is nor that bad. This way I do not mean marks is perfect.. far from this.. now it needs changes to some spells (such as DS, Recharged arrow---too mana the most important), and to normal hits speed/damage (slow and low normal hits are not so usefull, and you need lots of mana). Regards __________________ Tirador y Barbaro verdes ignotos - Barba y Tira rojos ignotos Necesito criticar

11-12-2009, 10:53 PM	#7
CumeriTarenes Baron Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 702	Another change I can think of is far longer cooldown for ethereal arrow and arcana strike. Of course marksman are also effected by changes in evasion tree, which is mainly acrobatic and spell elude. Low profil is harder to get now. In RvR marks cannot have big impacts anymore because of constant lack of mana since mana communion was nerfed. Movement speed was increased for all classes. That means marks as class with most range lost power due to the fact that enemies can run in range easier...or run out of range easier and run away. Marksman has no spell to avoid enemy running away in long range because winter stroke was changed to range 30. Well...you could use lightning arrow....but it's area spell with much mana cost and long cooldown. __________________ dwarfen sniper pts Cumeri Tarenes and Hunti

11-13-2009, 05:06 PM	#8
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	You can still move when shooting, just not nearly as much, but if you time it right you can still slide 2/3 feet with a med bow, not sure about slow/fast __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

11-13-2009, 05:21 PM	#9
LoveleHaven Initiate Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 200	Yea I saw that moving backwards is really bad right now. ( __________________ Lovele - Active - Haven - Marksman I love rock'n'roll

11-19-2009, 02:06 PM	#10
Hamster_of_sorrow Self-called retired user Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In NGD's ticket system hoping for a response. Posts: 517	I had a marks lvl 36 when the nerf hammer came down. ever since then, playing a marks was more pain than it was worth. imo, marks arent worth the effort (this is probably because i didnt like marks to begin with and i only made it as a noob because i thought it would be cool). I made a barbarian after nerf (lvl 43 now XD) and i like it much more than marks. that is more my style of fighting tho. all up in your face, not caring about the pain and just making you hurt more than you thought possible.

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