I'm srry to make this thread but its just become too big of an issue

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by lala110593

today... syrtis took aggers and heald it for 5+hours, then decided to take samal and heald it for 2-3 hours. They had the numbers to hold both forts for a period of time. I usually just keep trying but today i just got tired, this game is more frustrating then fun now, i seriously felt bad for alsius and ofc myself. Something has to be done about this, perhaps work a little quicker on the realm transfers and more positive portrayal of the other realms. Fix realm imbalance of jewlery, quests, personally i think this is the product of poor realm planning. How could there be so much inbalance b/w realms with jewlery, quests, and bosses? was this not thought out?

-glulose

Now you understand how we felt when on avg every other night our gate was in danger, perhaps not invaded that often but it was in danger none the less. And when this was happening, I remember many a posts where it was just us "whining" and how it was just that we sucked and you folks were so great. The fact of population imbalance had nothing to do with it of course. You know, even when herb was left undefended or 2-3 in it and we still did not have enough online to take back a lvl 1 fort while the majority took efe before people would get back from efe....so we had no chance to stop timer. I guess you found that to be fun so it was ok then.

Personally I don't find the farmfests syrtis has now as fun....BUT I do like to play this game. So, unfortunatly that means at times to get some fun other then BS grind or BS kill grinders, one must take part in these zergings to get any RvR action. So basically to rap up, I don't think most anyone is having fun at the moment.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Originally Posted by VandaMan

For the most part it's not even the same people playing in Ignis anymore as the ones that would own the warzone every night. If it was the same people... then there wouldn't be this problem, because they'd still be invading every night, and then Syrtis would be complaining rather than Ignis.

Entire wars have been faught because of something a dead man has said or done, nothing lasts forever and you should have had the forsight to confront the problem of realm imbalance long ago, instead of dissmissing it as just every non ignis player moaning for no reason.

After so long dismissing calls for balance, proclaiming your realms greatness over all others, stating that 1 Ignis player is worth 4 Syrtis (thats for that one efrendi) to suddenly expect sympathy when the tables turn is foolish, maybe the offenders dont play anymore, but there are many in syrtis who remember being offended and are bitter about it.

-However-

I like to see myself as a player of the game, before a player of Syrtis. So if the game as a whole is in a shit state then I wont be enjoying it, nor will most others and something will have to be done.

Yes, realm balance needs to be solved, no I dont have a solution, and few seem to be able to come up with one thats even slightly fair or feasable. So for the now at leas It seems all that can be done is for those in syrtis who care (like me) to avoid being part of the super-zerg, and for people in other realms to boycotte fighting them.

700 Syrtis in Samal? Leave them there.
They go to Shana as well? Leave them.
They Invade, steal your gems, open the portal? Let them, dont even fight back, just go hide in your initiation zone,

Eventaully they will get bored and stop zerging. Unless they only enjoy victory, and not the path to it, in which case they should gtfo of regnum pronto.

[VandaMan]

Originally Posted by Umaril

Entire wars have been faught because of something a dead man has said or done, nothing lasts forever and you should have had the forsight to confront the problem of realm imbalance long ago, instead of dissmissing it as just every non ignis player moaning for no reason.

After so long dismissing calls for balance, proclaiming your realms greatness over all others, stating that 1 Ignis player is worth 4 Syrtis (thats for that one efrendi) to suddenly expect sympathy when the tables turn is foolish, maybe the offenders dont play anymore, but there are many in syrtis who remember being offended and are bitter about it.

Yes... but you obviously missed my point, you're not even talking about the same people. The people who were "dismissing calls for balance, proclaiming your realms greatness over all others, stating that 1 Ignis player is worth 4 Syrtis" have quit playing RO for the most part.

And yes, you're correct, "Entire wars have been faught because of something a dead man has said or done, nothing lasts forever and you should have had the forsight to confront the problem of realm imbalance long ago" That's also why god makes retarded children, to punish their parents for being sinners... (?)

[Mattdoesrock]

Yeah it's gotten just plain boring.

But you know what the funniest thing is? Syrtis actually say that "it's just as boring for us." Of course! How stupid of me to think that if you were bored, you might log off or go do something fun!

And my most favourite quote: "We're here for a good fight, not for rp."

HAHA!

Yeah! A good fight is 20 vs 5!

Originally Posted by Umaril

700 Syrtis in Samal? Leave them there.
They go to Shana as well? Leave them.
They Invade, steal your gems, open the portal? Let them, dont even fight back, just go hide in your initiation zone,

So let me get this straight, you're saying we should just give up? Oh good, fun for everyone!

[UmarilsStillHere]

My point is actions have consequenses, even if you are not around to see them the things you do can effect people for a long time after you are gone, so you should be carefull when doing things like throwing gas on a fire, or well, basicaly creating inter-realm hatred, before Invasions we largely got on regardless of realms, nowadays there is a stigma attatched to each realm and an assumption that everyone there fits it.

However as I said after the -however- this is not personal, and shouldent be so kindly stop ignoring all the balance based parts of my posts and thinking I just dont care, I do, you can think otherwise but that dosnt change the fact that I do care about this game and balance within it, at least a hell of a lot more than the Ignis-invasions generation. We shouldent be talking about the reasons that most people no longer care (ie the people zerging you 24/7) we should be looking at solutions, otherwise the only thing this thread is good for is people learning a bit of the servers history with regard to balance. If you dont have a on topic comment relevent to balance thats not just a personal attack at me then I wont bother replying to you again.

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

But you know what the funniest thing is? Syrtis actually say that "it's just as boring for us." Of course! How stupid of me to think that if you were bored, you might log off or go do something fun!

I do

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

So let me get this straight, you're saying we should just give up? Oh good, fun for everyone!

Do you have a better Idea? Since all you do right now is say (rightly) that its bollocks boring to keep getting zerged, then go back to the same place and keep getting zerged for hours on end. Which Im sure is also fun. You could do something else in game or log off and do something else, Im sure the Regnum isnt the only source of entertainment on offer.

[VandaMan]

Originally Posted by Umaril

However as I said after the -however- this is not personal, and shouldent be so kindly stop ignoring all the balance based parts of my posts.

Repeating balance BS which has been said a million times just so that you can piggy back a little "But Ignis deserves to get zerged anyway" along with each post doesn't make yours on topic either. I just don't care enough to try and give the appearance of being on topic, when it's obvious this thread (just like its other 50 twin brothers) is going nowhere. If you really did intent to be 100% on topic and sincere, then you probably shouldn't throw in things like:

Originally Posted by Umaril

you should have had the forsight to confront the problem of realm imbalance long ago, instead of dissmissing it as just every non ignis player moaning for no reason.

Originally Posted by Umaril

After so long dismissing calls for balance, proclaiming your realms greatness over all others, stating that 1 Ignis player is worth 4 Syrtis (thats for that one efrendi) to suddenly expect sympathy when the tables turn is foolish

Originally Posted by Umaril

if you go dig up all the ignis bragging/other realms moaning threads you may see why your situation is met with little sympathy

Things like that are clearly just as off-topic as I am. So I guess you can either come up with some other "sincere" bullshit about balance just so that you can piggy-back some more off-topic nonsense, or...

Originally Posted by Umaril

I wont bother replying again.

[Acknor]

I'm going way off topic but...

Originally Posted by VandaMan

That's also why god makes retarded children, to punish their parents for being sinners... (?)

This is totally offensive. Please remove it from your post.

[lala110593]

the worst part is going for empty forts, yes we all do this but syrtis takes it to a new lvl. After a 3 hour battle at samal we finally take it back, go to aggers but just as we reach pn, shaan under attack, this is totally demoralizing knowing we have to start all over again at shaan with the same zerg, then they will take meni, it just sucks there is no fun in this. That is why from now on everytime syrtis takes samal or meni, i will try to get as many people to go sit at shaan with me, we can be annoying too.

-glulose

[VandaMan]

Originally Posted by Acknor

I'm going way off topic but...
This is totally offensive. Please remove it from your post.

It's not offensive if you look at the context in which it was said, it's clear that I wasn't trying to say that is the truth, but rather that I was saying it's ridiculous and comparable to the reasoning used by one of the other posters. It also happens to be something that many people do believe, unfortunately.

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Umaril

Do you have a better Idea?

I do. Think of ways to fix the problem, rather than turning it into a one-sided game. It's been made clear time and time again that many Syrtis players do enjoy one-sided fights, if only for the rp (of course, not everyone is like that).