I'm srry to make this thread but its just become too big of an issue

[SPARTISH]

Getting out numbered? Save camped?

I say quit waisting time b*tching on forums n grab your wep n do something about it!



No0bs :P=P

[Bleh]

Hey kyrottimus, I always see you doing only 2 try and go far away after, maybe you and others should make more try and don't left the others to an absolute death (I mean thoses low levels who fight more and more and always try to take back the fort without you). Too many act like you alsius/ignis and syrtisans too. That's how come a famring session because you left 5-10 ppl alone to fight zerg of medium/high levels. Boycott isn't a solution and isn't the game. If you really don't care about rps why you don't fight anymore ? I know it isn't plaisant to die more and more but at least if ppl see you fighting maybe more will come to help you. It always happens at herbred fort in the morning. But at least you don't have balls to leave the fort lvl 1. Most fight syrtis doing are always with fort lvl 1 but you abuse of this using some glitch when you reach door (Knight with fast speed attack with very slow weapon & low level who come from nowhere in fort by tower or behind tower and touch flag, then there is a ridiculous instant capture).

Fight for your realm, not for rps !

[Kyrottimus]

Originally Posted by Bleh

Hey kyrottimus, I always see you doing only 2 try and go far away after, maybe you and others should make more try and don't left the others to an absolute death (I mean thoses low levels who fight more and more and always try to take back the fort without you).

Dying repeatedly vs. overwhelming numbers is not fun, so I leave.

Too many act like you alsius/ignis and syrtisans too. That's how come a famring session because you left 5-10 ppl alone to fight zerg of medium/high levels. Boycott isn't a solution and isn't the game.

Again, 5-10 vs zerg isn't fun....so yeah, not going to push at something for hours on end if there is no fun in it. And I also leave because 1/2 the realm ignores my and other's calls for help.

If you really don't care about rps why you don't fight anymore?

Because I A M N O T H A V I N G F U N (got that part yet?)

I know it isn't plaisant to die more and more but at least if ppl see you fighting maybe more will come to help you.

I had such naive delusions for the first 6 months of playing too, then I realized that most people just would rather stand there and watch me die than to lend a hand or cover/support each other or what-have-you. And for the record I'm one of like 6 or 7 high-levels who even shows up and tries anymore, even if for 20-30 min before washing my hands of the whole thing.

It always happens at herbred fort in the morning.

Oh you mean when I'm never on because I'm working? Right, yes this must be my fault too.

But at least you don't have balls to leave the fort lvl 1.

Please don't use "you" when I'm never even there for your supposed anecdote. Use a different phrase like, "your realmmates" or "certain alsians" or whatever because if I am ever @ herb it's in the evenings with a handful of people, 8-10; and that's a rare enough occurrence as it is.

Most fight syrtis doing are always with fort lvl 1 but you abuse of this using some glitch when you reach door (Knight with fast speed attack with very slow weapon & low level who come from nowhere in fort by tower or behind tower and touch flag, then there is a ridiculous instant capture).

Here is again with this "you" stuff, if I didn't know any better I'd say you're directly accusing me of bug-abusing, which I for one do not do, and secondly it in itself is a violation of Forum Rules.

Fight for your realm, not for rps !

I still don't see your logic... I leave annoying/frustrating battles because I'm not having any fun, I don't give 2-sh*ts about RP. If I stay I still wind up getting some RP by the occasional zergling who strays too close but really when they get insta-ressed by one of the 7 conjurors about, it's really pointless until the zerg gets bored and disperses. And where is Alsius' counter-zerg? Not seen much at all lately.

Come see things from our perspective for a few days and maybe you'll understand why so many high-level Alsius have been quitting lately.

[Angel_de_Combate]

Basically the other realms in Horus need to more populated ..it is no fun to camp a fort for ages with no sign of the other realm taking it back, i really did enjoy the 3 way fights at samal they were excellent. A few months ago it was people complaining that Ignis were the dominant ones...now its the green team taking the flack. I for one is bored of it all...so adios, maybe until transfers take place ..but unfortunately we'll be waiting for awhile for that methinks.

[Flightcap]

When bored, I and other syrtians scrap the zerg and go off by lonesomes or in very small groups for a little hunt. Much more fun and interesting than camping a fort waiting for the other realm to show up, which takes awhile. So doing the same might prove more fun than anything else, unless of course there is a three-way or something interesting like that happening.

[UmarilsStillHere]

The game is stale in its current state, in the last week or 2 Ive probably spent less time online than I used to in a normal saturday. I log on occasionaly to see if anything worthwhile is happening and have grinded a Dwarf a bit but thats all.

[w_larsen]

while boycoting syrtis would probably help, it isn't solution at all, as it is effectively just taking away raison d'etre for syrtis players of this game, which is well... war, as this is wargame.
while emotionally people feel that syrtis shouldn't zerg like this, in reality it isn't really syrtian fault, that they have most players online and are doing, what game is about - killing players. its fault in realm balance design.

on other hand, there are things which can be thought about and probably changed

first would be response times to syrt fort taking. as it has been mentioned many times - initial syrt groups isn't allways zergs. and while some people argue, that the window is just two minutes, before it gets zerged, i don't believe it. for example today i was at aggers and went to smoke. just as i got up from chair, there was "treleborg is under attack" message. i decided to smoke first, so when i returned, trele was already taken. i started my pony and rode to treleborg save. when arriving at treleborg there was about 7-9 syrtis and... 2 alsians not counting me and my clannie, who arrived with me. i believe, that if i had time to smoke and go from aggers, probably everyone had time to log some close alt in or just go to fort.

next would be dropping "it's rpfarm, i'm not going unles there is equal force of us." attitude. while it's not really fun, getting farmed, such attitude prevents "antisyrt" force from growing, as many people adapt such behaviour and there is simply no way force can grow without people coming. growing force is slow and mostly some get bored and log out, before actual force grows up. respond fast and hard, and it will be better. if nobody responds, game is killed for those, who are willing to fight, as they feel the imbalanced forces more than those, who aren't attending.

boycotting forts suck. and that's pretty much about it. while shifting war grounds and taking enemy fort is nice and shiny strategy, it leads to situation, where boycott is beginning earlier and earlier, leading to situation, where homeforts get ignored at all. what can you suggest to syrtis players? not to war? log out and delete game, so realms get more balanced?

now, while we play different realms, we play the same game, so in my opinion it's in syrtis interests, that they have some oposition at least, as fighting against no enemy is kinda no fun.

so for the sake of global gameplay, some points for syrtis players:

zerging 5 players, who tries to mount at least some kind of fight isn't great accomplishment, so dancing, applauding, teabaging or making insulting tags, isn't really appropriate at all. but wait, there is more! doing all that, if you was too late and didn't hit a single enemy is bit lame, as it's your realmmates did the job, not you. and even more! if you barely escaped death from said 5 players and survived just because your realmmates saved you, isn't accomplishment at all, so applauding is lame as shit and not only disrespecting the smaller force, but also your realmmates.

upgrading forts, when there is force to hold, isn't going to help in getting good fight at all. not that it would drastically change balance, but it's a clear message, that intent is not to have fair and good fight. it also provokes other realms of doing that, so *all* realms should abstain from doing that.

if there is really 40vs15 situation, maybe zerg can be split and half can go to other realm fort, so everyone would have action, but forces would be more balanced.

but anyway, my biggest point is, that boycotting forts kills game and people shouldn't do that without trying at least to do something.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Originally Posted by w_larsen

If there is really 40vs15 situation, maybe zerg can be split and half can go to other realm fort, so everyone would have action, but forces would be more balanced.

After a while at Samal this morning Ignis had all but given up so we did exactly this, half went to Aggers, I cant speak for Aggers force as I stayed at Samal till my death, then went for lunch But at samal at least we had fun.

So Id say this is the best solution most of the time.

[w_larsen]

i was hoping, that at least some would see that as at least partial solution

[UmarilsStillHere]

Well other than just not playing the game its the only real thing we can do as players in game, or move realm but thats rather daunting to many players. Other than that its up to the devs to do 'something' towards realm balance.