Per class population - Page 6

j4np0l · 08-19-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chilko

this are my personal feelings (not NGD's)

Marksmans: Boring to play
Knight: Too hard to level and very low damage
Warlock: OK (OP)
Barbarian: OK (OP but whining)
Hunter: Super OP and too versatile
Conjurer: Super OP, too versatile and too easy to level (because of broken summons and many ways to regen)

You really really think every crying baby chooses to play a barbarian?......Or that maybe there is a reason for all the whining?

Or perhaps macho men play warloks or hunters? No, they are OP so they don't have anything to complain for.

It's like saying every people who plays in syrtis is gay because elves look that way...

I know this post doesn't follow your established pattern, but I needed to get that out of my chest.

My personal feelings about the barbarian: Really fun to play and a little OP ONLY IN A FEW SITUATIONS. Try playing in open field battles (which are more common than fort battles)...there you have to watch while Ranged players have fun....untill someone casts terror and you can do something. Or maybe try to fight a good lock or hunter in PvP (in the WZ, not the arena) and get yourself killed without landing one hit (locks are easier, but a good "hit and run" hunter is impossible to defeat).

I like my barb, but you need to fix it (or give knights better auras) so we can have fun in big open field battles (we are talking about Ra), without having to wait for a friendly terror.

Regards

Hamster_of_sorrow · 08-19-2010, 05:06 PM

whenever someone whines that UM is overpowered, it makes me laugh, its not an instant godmode spell like SoTW because it has a hell of a cast time whereas SoTW is instant. and it doesnt resist spells, it has a chance to resist knocks.

i cant tell you the amount of times i cast UM and immediately get my ass knocked to the ground. it happens more often than not. infact i think i have a video of that happening somewhere (and i dont ever get back up).....

at any rate, UM is not as great as every other class thinks it is. although, it can be extremely helpful in some situations (assuming that it works like it is supposed to for once).

sorry for being slightly random, but i needed to get it off my chest.

Gabburtjuh · 08-19-2010, 08:28 PM

when someone is casting a spell while your casting um/activating sotw, the effect doesnt count yet, and another problem with um: if they get a knock trough, and then thesame, it will stack.

rogueish · 08-19-2010, 08:35 PM

Sotw is hardly a god spell it has a chance to block attacks but doesnt always. Ive had many time after casting Sotw where a barb would stun me or another hunter would confuse me in spite of having it up. No spell works all the time every time. And barbs are very over powered no other class can kill my hunter as consistantly as a barb at my lvl. they stun you from what seems a long way off hit you 3 times and there goes 1 third of your hp. then you take 2 steps and a stunned again and there goes another third. take 2 more and your stunned again and dead. And thats the weaker ones some can 3 or 4 hit kill a hunter. Barbs just whine not because hunters are overpowered but because can escape if they can get a little distance away. Barbs feel they should be the center of the game because they are the main class for fort wars. And thats a fair opinion in some ways considering NGD has stated that the game in their vision should be all about fort wars.But I feel the main reason so many play hunters is not because they are over powered but rather because they have always offered an alternative gaming experience. Fort wars are inherently boring als take herb ignis takes aggers syrtis takes back herb als takes back aggers. Then als take meni ignis takes herb and so on over and over again. Invasions are good fun mainly because theyre occasional. Hunting has always added an alternative to endless fort wars and many players only even go to fort wars when there is a low game population in desperation to find someone to kill and even then it gets boring real fast. And its interesting that when I started playing the devs used to say that hunters were designed to harrass and kill enemys in the war zone now they seem to feel hunters are supposed to play support at fort battles. Thats a joke and I gaurantee when this update goes live if its in the current form this games gonna lose more players than it did last nerf. And I remember last time a dev said in the forum that they knew the changes were gonna make some players quit but were confident that those numbers would be more than made up by new players attracted by the changes. From what Ive seen of the current population that was a fail also.

ncvr · 08-20-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueish

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I should be having fun. Reading this post should be hilarious and entertaining. You don't know anything about my class, and you are attempting to tell NGD about balance in relation to it. This should be hilarious to me.

Instead, all I feel is a deep sadness.

Minorian · 08-20-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueish

Thats a joke and I gaurantee when this update goes live if its in the current form this games gonna lose more players than it did last nerf.

Good, all the hunters that cant handle a non-OP class can go f*** themselves.

Shwish · 08-20-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamster_of_sorrow

whenever someone whines that UM is overpowered, it makes me laugh, its not an instant godmode spell like SoTW because it has a hell of a cast time whereas SoTW is instant. and it doesnt resist spells, it has a chance to resist knocks.

if only you knew how much times i've died while under SoTW

bigjim138 · 08-20-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueish

Sotw is hardly a god spell it has a chance to block attacks but doesnt always. Ive had many time after casting Sotw where a barb would stun me or another hunter would confuse me in spite of having it up. No spell works all the time every time. And barbs are very over powered no other class can kill my hunter as consistantly as a barb at my lvl. they stun you from what seems a long way off hit you 3 times and there goes 1 third of your hp. then you take 2 steps and a stunned again and there goes another third. take 2 more and your stunned again and dead. And thats the weaker ones some can 3 or 4 hit kill a hunter. Barbs just whine not because hunters are overpowered but because can escape if they can get a little distance away. Barbs feel they should be the center of the game because they are the main class for fort wars. And thats a fair opinion in some ways considering NGD has stated that the game in their vision should be all about fort wars.But I feel the main reason so many play hunters is not because they are over powered but rather because they have always offered an alternative gaming experience. Fort wars are inherently boring als take herb ignis takes aggers syrtis takes back herb als takes back aggers. Then als take meni ignis takes herb and so on over and over again. Invasions are good fun mainly because theyre occasional. Hunting has always added an alternative to endless fort wars and many players only even go to fort wars when there is a low game population in desperation to find someone to kill and even then it gets boring real fast. And its interesting that when I started playing the devs used to say that hunters were designed to harrass and kill enemys in the war zone now they seem to feel hunters are supposed to play support at fort battles. Thats a joke and I gaurantee when this update goes live if its in the current form this games gonna lose more players than it did last nerf. And I remember last time a dev said in the forum that they knew the changes were gonna make some players quit but were confident that those numbers would be more than made up by new players attracted by the changes. From what Ive seen of the current population that was a fail also.

Maybe you just can't play your class?

rogueish · 08-20-2010, 07:38 PM

While I do find youre attempts at personal insult hillarious. You who whine constantly because you dont win every fight really should just learn to play the chars you chose to play rather than whine that everyone else is overpowered. There are some great barbs and knights in this game who really know how to play and usually beat me. Then there are the losers who want every other class nerfed so they can win without having to actually bother to learn how to play well and constantly whine in the forums. My question is assuming many of the whiners have been playing for quite a while many even before the last big hunter nerf. Why did you choose to play a class your certainly just no good at. As a side note after the big hunter nerf last year many of the hunters I knew switched to barbs because they became the strongest class yet you still whine and project your own inadequasies on to others that actually do know how to play their class. It will be sad after this round of nerfs when you still lose and come back here to the forum and whine for more nerfs rather than face the truth about yourselves.

UmarilsStillHere · 08-20-2010, 07:42 PM

Paragraphs are fun, you should try them sometime.

08-19-2010, 08:28 PM	#53
Gabburtjuh Baron Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere where grinding does NOT exist Posts: 822	when someone is casting a spell while your casting um/activating sotw, the effect doesnt count yet, and another problem with um: if they get a knock trough, and then thesame, it will stack. __________________ EX - Dutch Wannabe OP/Tank / Wannado Bash marks/knight/barb 60 Chuck Norris hunter 52 One Bite Snack, 60 barb / Wang King, 60 knight

08-20-2010, 07:42 PM	#60
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Paragraphs are fun, you should try them sometime. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

08-19-2010, 05:06 PM	#52
Hamster_of_sorrow Self-called retired user Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In NGD's ticket system hoping for a response. Posts: 517	whenever someone whines that UM is overpowered, it makes me laugh, its not an instant godmode spell like SoTW because it has a hell of a cast time whereas SoTW is instant. and it doesnt resist spells, it has a chance to resist knocks. i cant tell you the amount of times i cast UM and immediately get my ass knocked to the ground. it happens more often than not. infact i think i have a video of that happening somewhere (and i dont ever get back up)..... at any rate, UM is not as great as every other class thinks it is. although, it can be extremely helpful in some situations (assuming that it works like it is supposed to for once). sorry for being slightly random, but i needed to get it off my chest.

08-19-2010, 08:35 PM	#54
rogueish Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 74	Sotw is hardly a god spell it has a chance to block attacks but doesnt always. Ive had many time after casting Sotw where a barb would stun me or another hunter would confuse me in spite of having it up. No spell works all the time every time. And barbs are very over powered no other class can kill my hunter as consistantly as a barb at my lvl. they stun you from what seems a long way off hit you 3 times and there goes 1 third of your hp. then you take 2 steps and a stunned again and there goes another third. take 2 more and your stunned again and dead. And thats the weaker ones some can 3 or 4 hit kill a hunter. Barbs just whine not because hunters are overpowered but because can escape if they can get a little distance away. Barbs feel they should be the center of the game because they are the main class for fort wars. And thats a fair opinion in some ways considering NGD has stated that the game in their vision should be all about fort wars.But I feel the main reason so many play hunters is not because they are over powered but rather because they have always offered an alternative gaming experience. Fort wars are inherently boring als take herb ignis takes aggers syrtis takes back herb als takes back aggers. Then als take meni ignis takes herb and so on over and over again. Invasions are good fun mainly because theyre occasional. Hunting has always added an alternative to endless fort wars and many players only even go to fort wars when there is a low game population in desperation to find someone to kill and even then it gets boring real fast. And its interesting that when I started playing the devs used to say that hunters were designed to harrass and kill enemys in the war zone now they seem to feel hunters are supposed to play support at fort battles. Thats a joke and I gaurantee when this update goes live if its in the current form this games gonna lose more players than it did last nerf. And I remember last time a dev said in the forum that they knew the changes were gonna make some players quit but were confident that those numbers would be more than made up by new players attracted by the changes. From what Ive seen of the current population that was a fail also.

08-20-2010, 07:38 PM	#59
rogueish Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 74	While I do find youre attempts at personal insult hillarious. You who whine constantly because you dont win every fight really should just learn to play the chars you chose to play rather than whine that everyone else is overpowered. There are some great barbs and knights in this game who really know how to play and usually beat me. Then there are the losers who want every other class nerfed so they can win without having to actually bother to learn how to play well and constantly whine in the forums. My question is assuming many of the whiners have been playing for quite a while many even before the last big hunter nerf. Why did you choose to play a class your certainly just no good at. As a side note after the big hunter nerf last year many of the hunters I knew switched to barbs because they became the strongest class yet you still whine and project your own inadequasies on to others that actually do know how to play their class. It will be sad after this round of nerfs when you still lose and come back here to the forum and whine for more nerfs rather than face the truth about yourselves.