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time-to-die · 05-15-2011, 08:54 AM

Yea thnx alot for ur help. But i dont have much time for it. So what video cart is better?

Cuchulainn · 05-15-2011, 12:20 PM

I guess that you can play with both of these card in shader 3 mode without shadows at 30+ fps. These cards have a similar graphic performance.

I doubt that you could upgrade this HP all-in-one computer with a dedicated graphic card. It looks like everything is integrated in the screen. The graphic card is also a IGP mobility graphic card. If you buy this computer, it is probably pretty complicated to upgrade components like CPU or graphic card.

time-to-die · 05-17-2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuchulainn

I guess that you can play with both of these card in shader 3 mode without shadows at 30+ fps. These cards have a similar graphic performance.

I doubt that you could upgrade this HP all-in-one computer with a dedicated graphic card. It looks like everything is integrated in the screen. The graphic card is also a IGP mobility graphic card. If you buy this computer, it is probably pretty complicated to upgrade components like CPU or graphic card.

well i got now nvidia 8600m gs 512mb. but my laptop overburned and that stuff. for the second time. anyway with 30fps you mean also in war? if it is than it is nice.

regards.

Cuchulainn · 05-18-2011, 09:14 AM

I meant if the war activity is low 30+ fps. The framerate drop during wars depends very much on the CPU.

standistortion · 05-18-2011, 11:17 AM

time-to-die, I would recommend getting a PC built for a couple of reasons:

You will get a PC better suited to your requirements. PC makers usually build for either too general or too specific markets.

Future upgrades will be simple because the parts used will be selected to allow for them. PC makers build to make the numbers look good (ie. CPU speed, size of RAM and hard drive etc.) but lots of geeky stuff like bus and clock speed's on the motherboard are just as important. Off the shelf PC's almost always have these speeds at the maximum which means simple upgrades like adding faster memory are pointless.

PC's are designed to fail. Might get flamed for that but practically everyone I know who bought a new PC in the last couple of years has had the motherboard fail a couple of months outside warranty. These where all sub 1000 euro PC's, the reliability is generally much better for higher priced units.

If you don't want to put it together yourself then I would suggest a couple of options:

Get someone from the forum here to do it. I'll offer, bit pointless as I'm in Ireland though. I would assemble, install (ubuntu + regnum) and test for 60 euro.

Find a PC store in your area that sells components (NOT PC world) and buy assembled from them. I'm sure someone on the forum could recommend a store in a town or city near you.

Suggested components, flame away

http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2075247
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2080648
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2164956
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE1883006
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE1813144 x4
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2137182
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=MME6951878
http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=MME4063832

i3 processor and motherboard adds over 100 euro to total but should allow cheap upgrades for 2 to 3 years.
EDIT elara is just a company I use near me, the prices for a similar company in Holland should be slightly lower.

05-15-2011, 08:54 AM	#11
time-to-die Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The netherlands Posts: 722	Yea thnx alot for ur help. But i dont have much time for it. So what video cart is better?

05-15-2011, 12:20 PM	#12
Cuchulainn Master Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 303	I guess that you can play with both of these card in shader 3 mode without shadows at 30+ fps. These cards have a similar graphic performance. I doubt that you could upgrade this HP all-in-one computer with a dedicated graphic card. It looks like everything is integrated in the screen. The graphic card is also a IGP mobility graphic card. If you buy this computer, it is probably pretty complicated to upgrade components like CPU or graphic card.

05-18-2011, 09:14 AM	#14
Cuchulainn Master Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 303	I meant if the war activity is low 30+ fps. The framerate drop during wars depends very much on the CPU.

05-18-2011, 11:17 AM	#15
standistortion Master Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 438	time-to-die, I would recommend getting a PC built for a couple of reasons: You will get a PC better suited to your requirements. PC makers usually build for either too general or too specific markets. Future upgrades will be simple because the parts used will be selected to allow for them. PC makers build to make the numbers look good (ie. CPU speed, size of RAM and hard drive etc.) but lots of geeky stuff like bus and clock speed's on the motherboard are just as important. Off the shelf PC's almost always have these speeds at the maximum which means simple upgrades like adding faster memory are pointless. PC's are designed to fail. Might get flamed for that but practically everyone I know who bought a new PC in the last couple of years has had the motherboard fail a couple of months outside warranty. These where all sub 1000 euro PC's, the reliability is generally much better for higher priced units. If you don't want to put it together yourself then I would suggest a couple of options: Get someone from the forum here to do it. I'll offer, bit pointless as I'm in Ireland though. I would assemble, install (ubuntu + regnum) and test for 60 euro. Find a PC store in your area that sells components (NOT PC world) and buy assembled from them. I'm sure someone on the forum could recommend a store in a town or city near you. Suggested components, flame away http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2075247 http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2080648 http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2164956 http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE1883006 http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE1813144 x4 http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=ECE2137182 http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=MME6951878 http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.as...ode=MME4063832 i3 processor and motherboard adds over 100 euro to total but should allow cheap upgrades for 2 to 3 years. EDIT elara is just a company I use near me, the prices for a similar company in Holland should be slightly lower.