Merge/Transfers Ra>Haven - Page 10

MedicAlert · 06-02-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pery3000

When has NGD ever mentioned that character or item transfer between servers is simply not possible. That's the whole point of a merge. Pretty sure RA still brings in more money than Haven. People think just because its mainly a Spanish server they don't also spend money. What new players are being drawn to Haven? As I've stated half the population of Haven is either playing both Ra/Haven. Mostly they play Haven to be with old friends. They play RA not to become bored with the game. How are you keeping old players with a dead Haven Server? As you said other games are snatching up Older players. NGD I guess is fortunate that they want to play RA. Most of the people on this game complain about ping/lag when they play on crap Wifi/Toaster computer. Yes at times the server can go crazy. But mostly its because you're playing on outdated setups. As I never experience lag with the Ra battles. No way to really fix Multirealming as NGD has stated. Realm imbalance doesn't matter on Ra. Everyone has a zerg at certain times of the day. Then its funny that you list all these negative things and decide to add P.S you should merge Haven/Valhalla....... This game is being kept alive from the older community of players. If NGD can't retain new players. Game will soon die. However I know your concerns of merging.

P.S Wall of text.

I get your point, but tell me how do you think it's possible to merge/transfer thousands of characters and game accounts from one server to another. There is always the risk to lose/erase character progression and individual transfers may simply not be viable. Would be days if not months of work, transferring every account. People are hesitant if not angry that they have to pay for stuff they already have in the same game just different server ( so they come out to forums and ask for merge ). seriously though it's a waste of breath, NGD already knows "the haven problem" if they would have liked they would've merged it long ago. Besides, it's easier to lvl up in RA with the area spams and low lvls aren't as squishy anymore, making another character on RA with friends wouldn't hurt. Now before everyone decides to look for their gun or machetes or invade my home at midnight to throw me into a meatgrinder, I personally want a merge, most of my good gear and boss jewels are in Haven but since it will be few years before anything close to "M" comes to NGD's mind, I simply did and recommend the obvious.
Best,

Candyx · 06-02-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicAlert

I get your point, but tell me how do you think it's possible to merge/transfer thousands of characters and game accounts from one server to another. There is always the risk to lose/erase character progression and individual transfers may simply not be viable. Would be days if not months of work, transferring every account....

1. Put server in maintenance mode
2. Backup date
3. Merge database
4. Check data matches backups
5. Reopen server

They've literally done this multiple times before (Horus anyone?). The servers are (or at least were when I was last logged in) located on the same IP block, so they're probably in the same building.

NGD wont comment about merge. They've said it'll never happen - if you play haven atm but want to play an active game you have to make a Ra account. That means more xim for mounts, scrolls and boxes. That's NGDs business model.

rossi · 06-02-2016, 01:13 PM

Populate Haven, allowing transfers from Ra to Haven, can somebody tell me whats the problem with that?

As someone said already, Ra doesnt need/want a big number (yes, it is big) of lvl 60 players, that server is already overpopulated. And an interesting fact about this is that it is so overpopulated that the % of People who will consider the transfer to Haven (low %) will not make a considerably difference in Ra by moving to Haven, its like overoverpopulated, or atleast I assume that.

My point is, theres 'spanish' and 'english' people of Ra who prefers a kind of less populated server, and adding some old Haven players who moved to Ra + some 'only english' people will be enough to considerably populate Haven.

I also think that after like 6 months of doing this you will increase the % of english speakers in Haven, with NEW PEOPLE whos going to STAY IN COR (haven) because of being in an ACTIVE SERVER. With this you have a win win NGD (users (money) and an english server).

Also people will return to the game. Thats what I think.

Btw it is okay 'blabla people WHO blabla' or it is 'blabla people THAT blabla'? Or whose? Fuck you all.

Gnupis · 06-02-2016, 05:39 PM

After almost a month of this thread running and active it would be nice to at least see some signs of life from ngd regarding this matter. Just saying... I've already practically quit the game once again, my hope's drying out here.

hellscraem · 06-02-2016, 07:41 PM

would at least like to hear what the plan for haven is now. I rarely play now I wont grind another char on Ra just to play. I would play on haven IF it was active

andres81 · 06-02-2016, 08:17 PM

What exactly do you expect from such a merge?
We already have the same problems (maybe less intense for now) at RA.
The server is "overpopulated" if we speak about lag and server stability, in some situations the server is almost collapsing and unplayable.
But on the other hand we lack population because NGD has some rare strategy of dividing the community by offering different concurring game-goals. Some make pvp, others are hunting, the next wants battlezones, leveling and some war. The war-group is divided in the ones that want to finish quest of X and the others quest of Y. In the rare occurance of an invasion the mayority just goes for the quest and the minority is unable the get the gem....
We don't have players on RA to cover all this activities and at the end they all end bored because there are not enough people to join their idea of game.

Imho this game needs a complete revision of game mechanics that is based on the actual playerbase. At the moment we have game mechanics that would requiere thousands of players active at the same moment but the server goes down when 50 of them open a battle.

Zarakaye · 06-02-2016, 08:29 PM

Do not fear about lag. Haven have around 20 active player by realm ... Lol

Ignishaven · 06-03-2016, 10:53 AM

Let's be honest, population isn't right now the biggest issue of this game.
People is leaving (or already left) Haven, and that's due to NGD.
In a server like Ra, you can activate BZ's and still have some decent action on forts and castles.
In a server like Haven, activate BZ's and not a single fort/castle will be captured.
For sure some people is coming back, but they're on just on those days when they can enter BZ's.
Those saying language can be a barrier fusing Ra and Haven are retarded. Back in time, in Raven we had english speaking players, spanish, brazilians, italians... Probably even in Horus they had something similar. And we had fun with the game, you don't need a translator to know what "aca" means.
Haven is dead. Merging servers it's the only solution.
It will bring players back to the game, looking for bigger fights/hunts/whatever.
It will make them buy xym to grind faster, custome their gears, mounts,scrolls...

Players and NGD will be in a better point of the game.
And I don't know nothing about computers and that sort of things, but I'm pretty sure the new server can hold 100? new players coming from Haven.
There's no other point. Merge or die, as simple as that.

Rip Haven

TheBarbarianAlsius · 06-03-2016, 02:43 PM

Haven don't need a merge , need to bring back the players who left the game .
Now Syrtis is the underpopulated realm but for example : if all lvl 60 from haven come back to play . Syrtis could invade Alsius and Ignis easily at the same time.

Now the thing is ¿ how bring back the players who left the game? : Roadmap is a solution , but too slow and we don't know if at the end its gonna work . While this is happen Haven is dying and lost players who prefer start to 0 in Ra.

Another solution? : 5 or 4 years ago Ngd send a lvl 60 scrolls for inactivity account's with 4 years or more of antiquity to bring back old/beta players who left the game , but there was the polemic , they give a lvl 60 to people who left the game and nothing to us , the guys who keep playing support the server and make the game "live".

Loque · 06-03-2016, 03:47 PM

Remove the restriction of level 60 scrolls cross server. That is, players who are lvl 60 on Haven can buy a 60 scroll on Ra without having to grind a 60 first there (in the same account), and vice-versa. You get your money, they get their character, everybody happy.

06-02-2016, 01:13 PM	#93
rossi Initiate Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 237	Populate Haven, allowing transfers from Ra to Haven, can somebody tell me whats the problem with that? As someone said already, Ra doesnt need/want a big number (yes, it is big) of lvl 60 players, that server is already overpopulated. And an interesting fact about this is that it is so overpopulated that the % of People who will consider the transfer to Haven (low %) will not make a considerably difference in Ra by moving to Haven, its like overoverpopulated, or atleast I assume that. My point is, theres 'spanish' and 'english' people of Ra who prefers a kind of less populated server, and adding some old Haven players who moved to Ra + some 'only english' people will be enough to considerably populate Haven. I also think that after like 6 months of doing this you will increase the % of english speakers in Haven, with NEW PEOPLE whos going to STAY IN COR (haven) because of being in an ACTIVE SERVER. With this you have a win win NGD (users (money) and an english server). Also people will return to the game. Thats what I think. Btw it is okay 'blabla people WHO blabla' or it is 'blabla people THAT blabla'? Or whose? Fuck you all. __________________ Jasper Sir Psycho Sexy

06-02-2016, 07:41 PM	#95
hellscraem Initiate Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 120	would at least like to hear what the plan for haven is now. I rarely play now I wont grind another char on Ra just to play. I would play on haven IF it was active __________________ ignis - Chaos - Horus ignis - chaos hellscream , Grom hellscraem , Hellscraem - Ra

06-03-2016, 02:43 PM	#99
TheBarbarianAlsius Baron Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hopstad Posts: 775	Haven don't need a merge , need to bring back the players who left the game . Now Syrtis is the underpopulated realm but for example : if all lvl 60 from haven come back to play . Syrtis could invade Alsius and Ignis easily at the same time. Now the thing is ¿ how bring back the players who left the game? : Roadmap is a solution , but too slow and we don't know if at the end its gonna work . While this is happen Haven is dying and lost players who prefer start to 0 in Ra. Another solution? : 5 or 4 years ago Ngd send a lvl 60 scrolls for inactivity account's with 4 years or more of antiquity to bring back old/beta players who left the game , but there was the polemic , they give a lvl 60 to people who left the game and nothing to us , the guys who keep playing support the server and make the game "live". __________________ Skallagrimr

06-02-2016, 05:39 PM	#94
Gnupis Pledge Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: hiding in the snow Posts: 36	After almost a month of this thread running and active it would be nice to at least see some signs of life from ngd regarding this matter. Just saying... I've already practically quit the game once again, my hope's drying out here.

06-02-2016, 08:17 PM	#96
andres81 Count Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,690	What exactly do you expect from such a merge? We already have the same problems (maybe less intense for now) at RA. The server is "overpopulated" if we speak about lag and server stability, in some situations the server is almost collapsing and unplayable. But on the other hand we lack population because NGD has some rare strategy of dividing the community by offering different concurring game-goals. Some make pvp, others are hunting, the next wants battlezones, leveling and some war. The war-group is divided in the ones that want to finish quest of X and the others quest of Y. In the rare occurance of an invasion the mayority just goes for the quest and the minority is unable the get the gem.... We don't have players on RA to cover all this activities and at the end they all end bored because there are not enough people to join their idea of game. Imho this game needs a complete revision of game mechanics that is based on the actual playerbase. At the moment we have game mechanics that would requiere thousands of players active at the same moment but the server goes down when 50 of them open a battle.

06-02-2016, 08:29 PM	#97
Zarakaye Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: FRANCE Posts: 93	Do not fear about lag. Haven have around 20 active player by realm ... Lol

06-03-2016, 10:53 AM	#98
Ignishaven Pledge Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: España Posts: 25	Let's be honest, population isn't right now the biggest issue of this game. People is leaving (or already left) Haven, and that's due to NGD. In a server like Ra, you can activate BZ's and still have some decent action on forts and castles. In a server like Haven, activate BZ's and not a single fort/castle will be captured. For sure some people is coming back, but they're on just on those days when they can enter BZ's. Those saying language can be a barrier fusing Ra and Haven are retarded. Back in time, in Raven we had english speaking players, spanish, brazilians, italians... Probably even in Horus they had something similar. And we had fun with the game, you don't need a translator to know what "aca" means. Haven is dead. Merging servers it's the only solution. It will bring players back to the game, looking for bigger fights/hunts/whatever. It will make them buy xym to grind faster, custome their gears, mounts,scrolls... Players and NGD will be in a better point of the game. And I don't know nothing about computers and that sort of things, but I'm pretty sure the new server can hold 100? new players coming from Haven. There's no other point. Merge or die, as simple as that. Rip Haven

06-03-2016, 03:47 PM	#100
Loque Master Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 347	Remove the restriction of level 60 scrolls cross server. That is, players who are lvl 60 on Haven can buy a 60 scroll on Ra without having to grind a 60 first there (in the same account), and vice-versa. You get your money, they get their character, everybody happy.