a question about all this "save camping".

[Witch]

Originally Posted by Zidane_Tribal

its not the save-camping that bothers me, its the people who get killed then whine about it all over the forums.

As conj I don't see how I can defend myself against 5 Alsius attacks me 20-30m from the save altar. So stfu.

[Zidane_Tribal]

Originally Posted by Witch

As conj I don't see how I can defend myself against 5 Alsius attacks me 20-30m from the save altar. So stfu.

20 to 30 metres...... it takes you two minutes to run 20 to 30 metres?

let me help you with this dilemma....

do not cancel resurrection dizziness by attacking them, run away while you are invulnerable

seriously, i am a conjuror too, and the single most important thing i have figured out, oh, about 30 seconds after starting the game, is that a single player cannot defend against 5 enemies of any class of equal or greater level.

seriously dude, run away, don't just stand there, repeatedly attacking them, getting pwned.

[e30G]

I like the idea of tieing ownership of saves with the ownership of the closest fort. If you die and your save point is no longer yours then you will be respawned at the next nearest save. If all forts and the castle is taken over, you will respawn in the inner realm at the save closest to the gate.

As for save camping, I don't like it either, but whining won't solve anything IMHO. NGD hasn't stated that save camping is not permitted. Just stick to your principles and play the game the way you want to. If it means fighting honorably then good, if it means resorting to something as low as save or gate camping then I'm sorry for you.

[Zidane_Tribal]

i hate to double post, but i just noticed i missed one of whiney whitch's posts, and i just had to point this out....

Originally Posted by whiney Witch

Your idea is not that bad, in fact i don't really complain, is just the facts, some bad sides of the game, like RP's system, those kamikazes alone attacking group of 4-5 players and killing the easiest target to get full RP even they know that they gonna be killed. Deaths should be deducted from the RP points : you kill you get RP, you die you loose RP, not maybe at same proportions but some percentage. All these "game anomaly's" push me more and more to just quit RO and start to play another game.

and then.....

Originally Posted by whiney witch

As conj I don't see how I can defend myself against 5 Alsius attacks me 20-30m from the save altar. So stfu.

hey, witch, here is a clue..... dont kamikaze 4-5 players again and again, from a save point, then whine about them killing you.

[Witch]

Like your friend Elross just came on the save and killed 2 peoples? Is easy to warlock lvl 45+ to kill conj lvl 39 isn't?

[Zidane_Tribal]

Originally Posted by Witch

Like your friend Elross just came on the save and killed 2 peoples? Is easy to warlock lvl 45+ to kill conj lvl 39 isn't?

well, i don't know who elross is, surprisingly, i don't know every single person who plays the game.

and yes, it is easy for a lvl45+ to kill a lvl39. see, that's why it's called a warzone, because people are trying to kill you. so use your resurrection dizziness and run away before they kill you again.

[Witch]

They are no monsters for level 39 in save zone so we have to level in WZ and be easy target for high levels. Isn't there some problem in this game?

So if Alsius want to get easy RP they will get them.

[Zidane_Tribal]

Originally Posted by Witch

They are no monsters for level 39 in save zone so we have to level in WZ and be easy target for high levels. Isn't there some problem in this game?

yeah, you seem to not realise i am a lvl37 conj from syrtis, so i have to lvl in the warzone too. we have very similar characters. the only difference being, when i go out into the warzone, i realise that if i die, its part of the game. when you die, you whine a lot.

see, here's how it works. you have at least one save point in your safe zone, if you do not want to run the risk of ressurrecting near enemies, you can use a save in the safe zone. nothing is stopping you from doing this. instead, you save in a zone where you know full well enemies will be looking for you and trying to kill you. then, when you have rez dizzy, you cancel it and attack five enemies of greater lvl, in a fight you cannot possibly win.... then die and complain about it.

just get over the fact that you are not a one-man-army. start running away while you have rez dizzy on, hell, if needs be, use a save in the safe zone, its only going to take a few minutes to walk back to where you were.

[Malich]

zidane, it might be slightly better to speak in a more theoretical way, rather than using Witch as an example. I'm getting slightly worried about a flame war breaking out between you two. *hides in fire proof room*
oh, and one last thing: *pokes zidane*

wait, i'm supposed to comment about the topic? Hm, ok.
People don't like the idea of having to sprint for 2 minutes and getting killed off, and they like the idea of being able to go afk for a little. If they die, they die. Maybe it's just a little confusion over what is percieved as their "rights" (i.e. some people may believe that they should be able to go afk at the saves, or ressurect their, without expecting to be killed.).

[Tyr]

Originally Posted by Zidane_Tribal

yeah, but dont you see the essential solution right there? if the enemy chase you, for the two minutes, they will be at least two minutes away from the save point. a) they are not save camping anymore, they are in the wild. b) you can get back to the save point in a single click, and get a two minute headstart by running the other way. seriously, nobody has figured this out yet?

You are kidding right? The distance you just ran in that 2 minutes can be covered in 30 seconds by a barbarian or a hunter so your so called head start is worthless. It is very clear you have not been in the warzone long and have yet to experience save camping. After you have been killed 4-5 time in a row with almost nothing you can do about it then we will see.