Defensive or Offensive - Page 2

fluffy_muffin · 02-13-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

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Lamest class: Archer.
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I do not know.. lough or just pass it by.
Archers the lamest hmmm. I am watching screenshots of selfcrashing ppl, ppl who hug trees and run to the water and most of them are warriors.
Next time when you say that archers are lamest than ask your ignitian friends how they escape from stone after we capture it (/me point big X on window).
Belive me i will not run if i do not need.

phoenix_jackson · 02-13-2008, 11:23 PM

I'm a Warlock. But I vote for defensive simply because of conjurers and Hunters "tricks" (as I call it). For Knights, I need to learn more about them to speak more of them.

As for the "lame" comment, it is but an opinion and not to evoke a refute. Although, the term itself would have been circumlucoted for a less provocing means. Still, it IS only an opinion.

GIGO305 · 02-13-2008, 11:29 PM

defensive, 1 on 1 they suck but in fort batles where numbers count defensive classes will win over ofensive even if we take out the mages, conjus are the best 100 conjus can pwn 200 or less of all the other combined because our numbers will just come back unlike yours and we are the most dependable class no fort war begins without checking for conjus

misaccc · 02-14-2008, 12:30 AM

Nope knights are defensive and they rock 1on1....after marks still best class at pvp

GIGO305 · 02-14-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by misaccc

Nope knights are defensive and they rock 1on1....after marks still best class at pvp

yea true but frikin barbs keep getting better defense and soon will be able to kill knights and knights are better than masks cast blck projectails and he wont touch u

amade · 02-14-2008, 12:43 AM

I really don't give a damn on which class is better one on one

. How much they can contribute in RvR matters more for me. And because of that each class is useful, but support classes have always been more appealing to me than the others.

misaccc · 02-14-2008, 12:49 AM

Meh...etheral arow every 15sec beats deflecting projectiles any time...

ncvr · 02-14-2008, 09:06 AM

Did you ever consider using tactics(trip, feint) and Jaw Breaker+Shield Bash? You'll keep marks either dizzy or lying on his back 100% of the time unless he resists..and against a knight, their base attack isn't that strong, especially with defensive buffs.

I voted defensive because they are good on 1 on 1 with the exception of conjurors. Marksmen are good on 1 on 1 but don't have the invis hunters have or the ability to live for ages knights have, and still deal 800 dmg with SC unbuffed(trust me - it's happened before), nor their combat control, although warlocks have the best combat control.

Conjus aren't so bad in one on one either, they have the additional defense + can easily go for an "elemental assassin" setup with a fast staff and lvl 5 acceleration + magnifications, and can have a very long lasting dizzy. However they're better off supporting still.

misaccc · 02-14-2008, 09:20 AM

A buffed marks resists/evades half of spells.so you can only keep him dizzy knocked if he isnt buffed up but 90% of the time they are...and tactics aint that good...you will see it when you have a high lvl knight...

ncvr · 02-14-2008, 09:28 AM

I know that you'll only know a class fully when you've played them at lvl 40+, but I find it quite difficult to cope with knockdown and dizzy spells from knights. How else are knights supposed to do well in PvP? Although their defense is great, they will eventually die. You can't just try doing raw damage either, their offensive abilities are not as strong as barbs.

View Poll Results: Which is better?
Offensive ( Barbarian, Marksmen, Warlock )	12	32.43%
Defensive ( Knight, Hunter, Conjurer )	25	67.57%
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02-14-2008, 12:43 AM	#16
amade Baron Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kelana Jaya Posts: 920	I really don't give a damn on which class is better one on one . How much they can contribute in RvR matters more for me. And because of that each class is useful, but support classes have always been more appealing to me than the others. __________________ end.transmission - amade FoV Clan Inventory Listing

02-13-2008, 11:23 PM	#12
phoenix_jackson Initiate Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Korea Posts: 150	I'm a Warlock. But I vote for defensive simply because of conjurers and Hunters "tricks" (as I call it). For Knights, I need to learn more about them to speak more of them. As for the "lame" comment, it is but an opinion and not to evoke a refute. Although, the term itself would have been circumlucoted for a less provocing means. Still, it IS only an opinion.

02-13-2008, 11:29 PM	#13
GIGO305 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: with ur mom Posts: 939	defensive, 1 on 1 they suck but in fort batles where numbers count defensive classes will win over ofensive even if we take out the mages, conjus are the best 100 conjus can pwn 200 or less of all the other combined because our numbers will just come back unlike yours and we are the most dependable class no fort war begins without checking for conjus

02-14-2008, 12:30 AM	#14
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	Nope knights are defensive and they rock 1on1....after marks still best class at pvp

02-14-2008, 12:49 AM	#17
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	Meh...etheral arow every 15sec beats deflecting projectiles any time...

02-14-2008, 09:06 AM	#18
ncvr Marquis Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,439	Did you ever consider using tactics(trip, feint) and Jaw Breaker+Shield Bash? You'll keep marks either dizzy or lying on his back 100% of the time unless he resists..and against a knight, their base attack isn't that strong, especially with defensive buffs. I voted defensive because they are good on 1 on 1 with the exception of conjurors. Marksmen are good on 1 on 1 but don't have the invis hunters have or the ability to live for ages knights have, and still deal 800 dmg with SC unbuffed(trust me - it's happened before), nor their combat control, although warlocks have the best combat control. Conjus aren't so bad in one on one either, they have the additional defense + can easily go for an "elemental assassin" setup with a fast staff and lvl 5 acceleration + magnifications, and can have a very long lasting dizzy. However they're better off supporting still.

02-14-2008, 09:20 AM	#19
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	A buffed marks resists/evades half of spells.so you can only keep him dizzy knocked if he isnt buffed up but 90% of the time they are...and tactics aint that good...you will see it when you have a high lvl knight...

02-14-2008, 09:28 AM	#20
ncvr Marquis Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,439	I know that you'll only know a class fully when you've played them at lvl 40+, but I find it quite difficult to cope with knockdown and dizzy spells from knights. How else are knights supposed to do well in PvP? Although their defense is great, they will eventually die. You can't just try doing raw damage either, their offensive abilities are not as strong as barbs.