Most overpowered class? - Page 13

tak · 04-08-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zielski

Do you play every subclass all the time? You lvled all of them to 50 by yourself? Did you tested all setups for them? All type of fight? With different party configurations?

Yes of course. /sarcasm

Apart from marksman i have played all classes, in war and when leveling. I tested if not all then a lot of setups.

The point is when talking about balance you have better insights, for example how often certain spells miss (for you as a hunter take ambush for example) or how you have to move or how you have to work with your mana or which spells sound great on paper but actually not do anything etc etc.

In short, all the little things that you only find out about when you play yourself and that really make up the balance.

DkySven · 04-08-2008, 04:19 PM

Well, in thank case we should ask Zebedee. He has every class above 40, 3 of them 50, one 48 and one 45. Hey zeb! Could you post here?

mann2411 · 04-09-2008, 06:23 AM

what really annoys me is that people say how overpowered hunters are yet they can't take it when we do it to their class.

also in this case numbers are right thats why the whole survey was made

ncvr · 04-09-2008, 06:56 AM

Okay, I'm away for 2 days and all this shit has polluted this thread...

1) Marksmen have a 15m advantage. That is A LOT. 5m is a lot too...
2) If you can't take an arguement then you should leave the forums. It's all that happens in development threads.
3) Knights have an advantage against marksmen.
4) Lvl 5 Sultars' Terror does 400 dmg on a hunter buffed with lvl 4 evasion spells.
5) Lvl 5 Meteor does less than that.

I may not have a high lvl on my hunter, but I use the defense of some lvl 50s and I know how good it is. I've seen a lot of resists and evades with Spell Elude and Dodge which would be unachievable on a warlock. Warlocks are not overpowered but hunters are not either. Like Zelgg, I think a Marksman has it the easiest in most situations because of the defense, dmg and range.

mann2411 · 04-09-2008, 07:15 AM

yes but not every hunter has evasion

Angelwinged_Devil · 04-09-2008, 09:41 AM

if you believe in numbers take archers general+marksman versus warlocks+mages general
do the same with archers general+hunter then you have your numbers

a hunter can be rendered nearly invincible and have a godlike attack, sotw+pet.

ncvr · 04-09-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mann2411

yes but not every hunter has evasion

LOL

Their fault if they don't get it. If you're a hunter play like a hunter not a WARLOCK

mann2411 · 04-09-2008, 10:27 AM

well i simply cannot afford it you see necro its either i no attack spells, no pet or cant track and i'm also certain i would be yelled at for not having tracking by someone like yourself i wouldn't be able to do anything without LB and i wouldn't be able to do anything without a pet your move sherlock

anyway i hate son of the wind and find it almost useless for the amount of mana it cosumes and how little it acutally does

Signatus · 04-09-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mann2411

anyway i hate son of the wind and find it almost useless for the amount of mana it cosumes and how little it acutally does

gah... heretic...

ncvr · 04-09-2008, 10:41 AM

Shortbows lvl 13 is good, longbows must be 19 or not at all to be effective. Anyway, your choice...I don't use a pet on my hunter btw and I can fight fine. Base attack of lvl 50 hunter does 90 - 120 dmg to me, I'm setup more for defense.

EDIT: Point is if you want to sacrifice defense for attack then go ahead. 1) It's just not how hunters are meant to be played, they are more effective setup evasively and 2) You have a MUCH easier time in war especially.

View Poll Results: Which class is most overpowered?
Warlocks	27	23.28%
Marksmen	18	15.52%
Conjurors	5	4.31%
Knights	4	3.45%
Hunters	23	19.83%
Barbarians	21	18.10%
General Warriors	2	1.72%
General Mages	1	0.86%
General Archers	15	12.93%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

04-08-2008, 04:19 PM	#122
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	Well, in thank case we should ask Zebedee. He has every class above 40, 3 of them 50, one 48 and one 45. Hey zeb! Could you post here? __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

04-09-2008, 06:23 AM	#123
mann2411 Baron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 699	what really annoys me is that people say how overpowered hunters are yet they can't take it when we do it to their class. also in this case numbers are right thats why the whole survey was made __________________ Brad - after a year of not playing I have no idea how to play my character, no clue what's going on and have to ask questions every few minutes.... I am the born again noob.

04-09-2008, 07:15 AM	#125
mann2411 Baron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 699	yes but not every hunter has evasion __________________ Brad - after a year of not playing I have no idea how to play my character, no clue what's going on and have to ask questions every few minutes.... I am the born again noob.

04-09-2008, 10:27 AM	#128
mann2411 Baron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 699	well i simply cannot afford it you see necro its either i no attack spells, no pet or cant track and i'm also certain i would be yelled at for not having tracking by someone like yourself i wouldn't be able to do anything without LB and i wouldn't be able to do anything without a pet your move sherlock anyway i hate son of the wind and find it almost useless for the amount of mana it cosumes and how little it acutally does __________________ Brad - after a year of not playing I have no idea how to play my character, no clue what's going on and have to ask questions every few minutes.... I am the born again noob.

04-09-2008, 06:56 AM	#124
ncvr Marquis Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,439	Okay, I'm away for 2 days and all this shit has polluted this thread... 1) Marksmen have a 15m advantage. That is A LOT. 5m is a lot too... 2) If you can't take an arguement then you should leave the forums. It's all that happens in development threads. 3) Knights have an advantage against marksmen. 4) Lvl 5 Sultars' Terror does 400 dmg on a hunter buffed with lvl 4 evasion spells. 5) Lvl 5 Meteor does less than that. I may not have a high lvl on my hunter, but I use the defense of some lvl 50s and I know how good it is. I've seen a lot of resists and evades with Spell Elude and Dodge which would be unachievable on a warlock. Warlocks are not overpowered but hunters are not either. Like Zelgg, I think a Marksman has it the easiest in most situations because of the defense, dmg and range.

04-09-2008, 09:41 AM	#126
Angelwinged_Devil Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under your skin Posts: 1337 Posts: 2,490	if you believe in numbers take archers general+marksman versus warlocks+mages general do the same with archers general+hunter then you have your numbers a hunter can be rendered nearly invincible and have a godlike attack, sotw+pet.

04-09-2008, 10:41 AM	#130
ncvr Marquis Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,439	Shortbows lvl 13 is good, longbows must be 19 or not at all to be effective. Anyway, your choice...I don't use a pet on my hunter btw and I can fight fine. Base attack of lvl 50 hunter does 90 - 120 dmg to me, I'm setup more for defense. EDIT: Point is if you want to sacrifice defense for attack then go ahead. 1) It's just not how hunters are meant to be played, they are more effective setup evasively and 2) You have a MUCH easier time in war especially.