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View Poll Results: Which class is most overpowered?
Warlocks 27 23.28%
Marksmen 18 15.52%
Conjurors 5 4.31%
Knights 4 3.45%
Hunters 23 19.83%
Barbarians 21 18.10%
General Warriors 2 1.72%
General Mages 1 0.86%
General Archers 15 12.93%
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:28 PM   #151
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alot of that will be evaded or resisted
Like your will domain at pb? ;] you left me for barbs you bad bad conj! ;p
I have no idea which "cover spell" was it but you evaded, resisted, blocked all my spells :]
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:55 PM   #152
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It's funny how almost only Warlocks voted for Marksmen, but almost every class has voted for Warlocks
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:02 PM   #153
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It's funny how almost only Warlocks voted for Marksmen, but almost every class has voted for Warlocks
I have been playing Marks 45 non stop for three days and I confirm that Marksman are WAY, WAY overpowered.

And be warned: I'm screenshoting ALL my encounters and I will make stats within an official report and I'll make all I can so they get nerfed, for the sake of this game.

I was just now for one hour hunting in syrtis with a lv 41 Conjurer with Zarkit. We killed everyone we encountered. Hunters lv 48-50, including "names" (such as srmofo), in outnumbered situations, Warlocks, Conjurers, all died leaving me generally uninjured. My resistance to damage is completely abnormal (way higher than my Knight in fact) and the amount of evades/resists is a joke given the high damage I got (Arcana Strike with DS over 1000 ftw) and the awesome range/speed (and I don't even have points in the range passive!)... I eat Warlocks so easily it's a joke (yes, I do use Burst of Wind unlike a lot of Marksmen)...

Now I'm gonna make clear stats and compare with my Warlock, my Knight, with ratios evades/mana cost (for enemy and self), and damage-reduction-evades/damage inflicted.

Znurre can also testify. I was on hunt with him and Kathris yesterday at Menirah. In the last battle Kathris died immediately, what was it Znurre? 6vs2? All around lv 40, some as high as 45? Maybe more than 6. We killed them all... A few times. They had time to get angry. Oh. And we escaped (actually we were greeted without mana, buffs and health at the teleport end points by Envy who had no trouble finishing us but that was only very bad luck). And the end of battles, I was rarely much injured, only out of mana. What a difficult class to play! It's like "who is gonna die next?" and that's it.

The spell Death Sentence is a joke. It should be range 20 and casting time 2s, at least. As it is, it's really really overpowered. In general, most Marksmen spells are instant and that's bullshit. Ethereal Arrow is way overpowered too with low cooldown, low mana, instant cast, that Mage just cast Energy Barrier? Die anyway!

But of course the true overpowerdness comes from Evasions... People who attack you see how futile it is. I met srmofo (twice) near Syrtis market (gate), chased him, DS, Serpents bite, hoho you're losing by far. His hits? Dual shot lv 5 ~150, normal hits 50-60. Haha. Then a second hunter, the pt lema of Syrtis, comes. Directly casts SoW. srmofo is in SoW too, so they both target me. With ridiculously low attacks, thanks to my resists (I also evade half). But bad surprise for you guys. Your SotW are almost over, now *I* start mine. Who's the biatch now? You are DS'ed, I'm in SoW, you're so dead . Anyway srmofo was almost dead by my hand, his SotW finishes, oh lema and me kill him. Then it's lema's turn. He took the teleporter 2 hits away from dying.

Yesterday I managed to escape a group of what.. 7-10 ignitas, near Samal (with the help of ooo O ooo)... No way my Warlock could ever do that.

We had tons of fights like that. And don't get me started on fort wars. With unlimited mana I'm like Robinhood on steroids with a bazooka.

Did I mention my Marks is only lv 45 and is more powerful than my lv 50 Warlocks? And I don't even have Confuse. Yet.
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:05 PM   #154
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and i cant belive how many people voted that barbs are overpowered...
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:58 PM   #155
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Stop beating pts and stating that marks are overpowered... but then again, if your calculations confirm it...
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:08 PM   #156
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Stop beating pts and stating that marks are overpowered... but then again, if your calculations confirm it...
I just find that some Marksmen are shameless to call Warlocks overpowered (looking at the result of the poll and Miraculix' comment) when they are obviously the ultimate class (especially with a good Conjurer along) and playing one I can tell how unfair it is to other classes. If I had the lacking powerpoints it would be even more crazy .

Someone has to stand up with some objectivity and I think I'm objective playing the very class I criticize.

Of course it's fun, but it is the "Archer fun", the lame fun, the fun but no challenge. The Syrtis fun(TM).

PS: Do you know Batman, the Ignis hunter? And another hunter friend one or two levels below him. Well they were hidden at pp when we came back from hunt, not only they let us rape lachnload, their Conju, while remaining invisible (of course had no clue they'd be there). But then they decide to attack us in our back and we raped them (2vs2+2cyclops+1 elite cyclops I aggro'ed with Ignus Scortch) in like 10s... That's the best thing about Marksmen, I can rape hunters so easily, it brings me a huge smile
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:49 PM   #157
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lol magnet, it seems as if you made a Marksman only so you could bitch about it and claim objectivity at the same time.
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lol magnet, it seems as if you made a Marksman only so you could bitch about it and claim objectivity at the same time.
Well most Marksmen in the English community remains silent and considers things balanced; and some even dare to say that Warlocks are overpowered. Since no ones stepped up I'll do it and I will release all my logs and make different measures to show that with 80% of measures you take, the statistic is in favour of Marks . So people of Ignis and Syrtis have to understand that it is NOT for fun that I will go kill them over and over, but for the sake of balance! Amen!
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PS: Do you know Batman, the Ignis hunter? And another hunter friend one or two levels below him. Well they were hidden at pp when we came back from hunt, not only they let us rape lachnload, their Conju, while remaining invisible (of course had no clue they'd be there). But then they decide to attack us in our back and we raped them (2vs2+2cyclops+1 elite cyclops I aggro'ed with Ignus Scortch) in like 10s... That's the best thing about Marksmen, I can rape hunters so easily, it brings me a huge smile
I know Batman, and I know poor lachnload (got to team that fellow up, the "holas" are abusing from his innocence)... and I'll repeat: stop beating pts. Because you ought to be a pt to loose 2V2 fight against a conju and a marks being 2 hunters (one 50 and the other 48?) invisible from start and with pets for Christ sake... and worst, the way you describe it make it sound easy. If you said "Well it was tough but we managed to win." I would understand, bad days happen to invisible-hunters-with-high-lvl-pet-setup, but in 10 sec?! Le Gasp...

Just let Wudy, Comp and Aeron hit the WZ again...
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lol magnet, it seems as if you made a Marksman only so you could bitch about it and claim objectivity at the same time.
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