Most overpowered class? - Page 25

ljwolfe · 04-11-2008, 09:20 PM

yep those marksmen are op'd. look at their rps!

SOrry, the data don't necessarily support your conclusions.

So marksmen can escape? Ok, hunters have speed, camo and the same evasion tree. I also don't buy the line that hunters have weak damage. Not some of the hunters I face. Both archers get LB and SB lines....

04-11-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BlooD

This is just what makes me laugh, a hunter saying markmans are overpowered because they have more armor than hunters.

Me too ! People thinking that don't know what they're talkin' about... Okay marks can have a lot of armor points, but that costs them a lot of mana... mana they can't use to attack outside of fort wars !

And all those buffs can be cancelled with mind squasher... /me looks suspiciously a well known dwarven barb

And mages who don't use mana burn/borrow against them have to take their responsabitlies

(Edit : and remember Infuriate(5) pwnz... learn to play smart warlocks ^^)

Valorius · 04-11-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BlooD

This is just what makes me laugh, a hunter saying markmans are overpowered because they have more armor than hunters.

Yeah, 80% more armor!

And oh, yeah, about double the offensive firepower a hunter has too. And almost 25% more range. And because they share the evasion tree with hunters, they can have darn near as much speed.

Yep...Marksmen aren't overpowered at all. (dripping wet sarcasm)

Valour · 04-11-2008, 10:57 PM

I have seen many pvps where a hunter has defeated a marksman...

And this marksman was a very effective marksman.

Valorius · 04-11-2008, 10:59 PM

Marksman was set up wrong. You may note, i specifically said the "defensive marksman" is the overpowered build(wildly overpowered imo).

It's the extra 80% more armor from strategic positioning that makes them bugs bunny ridiculous to fight against.

Valour · 04-11-2008, 10:59 PM

Nope...

Full defencive.

Valorius · 04-11-2008, 11:02 PM

Quite simply put, i don't believe you.

Kay?

Lvl 51 orc grunt= 50dmg vs full defensive marksman
lvl 50 hunter arrows= 40dmg vs full defensive marksmen

I think you smoked too much crack, and were merely hallucinating.

Offensive marksmen, on the other hand, are entirely manageable with a pet. Still not easy, it comes down to who resists the most spells usually...but at least they can be beaten.

ljwolfe · 04-11-2008, 11:06 PM

I tried the full defensive marksman and I hated it. I had to sacrafice way too much utility elsewhere and couldn't do enough damage to finish my targets off. Yes, it may be defensive. However, it isn't that effective.

Valour · 04-11-2008, 11:06 PM

Hahahha....

Good luck on further pvps with marksmen then

Valorius · 04-11-2008, 11:07 PM

It's not effective?

You need to face Gpomal sometime.

He took out me and a another lvl 50 hunter WITH an Orc Grunt pet yesterday at the same time.(barely, but he did)

And if you think a defensive marksman has no firepower, you should try a defensive hunter. LOL.

My best spell can't even match a marksmans normal attack using rechargeds.

View Poll Results: Which class is most overpowered?
Warlocks	27	23.28%
Marksmen	18	15.52%
Conjurors	5	4.31%
Knights	4	3.45%
Hunters	23	19.83%
Barbarians	21	18.10%
General Warriors	2	1.72%
General Mages	1	0.86%
General Archers	15	12.93%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

04-11-2008, 09:20 PM	#241
ljwolfe Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 386	yep those marksmen are op'd. look at their rps! SOrry, the data don't necessarily support your conclusions. So marksmen can escape? Ok, hunters have speed, camo and the same evasion tree. I also don't buy the line that hunters have weak damage. Not some of the hunters I face. Both archers get LB and SB lines.... __________________ Columba, Noob Marksman

04-11-2008, 10:57 PM	#244
Valour Master Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 322	I have seen many pvps where a hunter has defeated a marksman... And this marksman was a very effective marksman. __________________ Valour Mutiny Wra Nohadon Thirteen Valourious

04-11-2008, 10:59 PM	#246
Valour Master Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 322	Nope... Full defencive. __________________ Valour Mutiny Wra Nohadon Thirteen Valourious

04-11-2008, 11:06 PM	#248
ljwolfe Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 386	I tried the full defensive marksman and I hated it. I had to sacrafice way too much utility elsewhere and couldn't do enough damage to finish my targets off. Yes, it may be defensive. However, it isn't that effective. __________________ Columba, Noob Marksman

04-11-2008, 10:59 PM	#245
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	Marksman was set up wrong. You may note, i specifically said the "defensive marksman" is the overpowered build(wildly overpowered imo). It's the extra 80% more armor from strategic positioning that makes them bugs bunny ridiculous to fight against.

04-11-2008, 11:02 PM	#247
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	Quite simply put, i don't believe you. Kay? Lvl 51 orc grunt= 50dmg vs full defensive marksman lvl 50 hunter arrows= 40dmg vs full defensive marksmen I think you smoked too much crack, and were merely hallucinating. Offensive marksmen, on the other hand, are entirely manageable with a pet. Still not easy, it comes down to who resists the most spells usually...but at least they can be beaten.

04-11-2008, 11:06 PM	#249
Valour Master Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 322	Hahahha.... Good luck on further pvps with marksmen then __________________ Valour Mutiny Wra Nohadon Thirteen Valourious

04-11-2008, 11:07 PM	#250
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	It's not effective? You need to face Gpomal sometime. He took out me and a another lvl 50 hunter WITH an Orc Grunt pet yesterday at the same time.(barely, but he did) And if you think a defensive marksman has no firepower, you should try a defensive hunter. LOL. My best spell can't even match a marksmans normal attack using rechargeds.