Lil' help with a marksman

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

You *seriously* don't know anything about marksmen or archers in general. Boosting your dex to get the equivalent amount of boost from Recharged would mean a dex boost of 25+. LOL.

that's not what I was saying, you're just implying it

Originally Posted by miraculix

What Cumeri said is probably the best setup for leveling a marks.
Recharged with a slow bow does not drain that much mana, you can practically level non-stop. If you had ever, even once leveled a marksman you would know that. There is enough time for mana regen when you run towards the next mob to kill while in off combat mode. Ask a marks in your clan ffs instead of making shit up.

I'm not making shit up try out what I said, I'm sure there's a way. And if there's a lot of mobs then, what will you do? Say "oh no I have to pretend like I'm running between mobs to get my mana up?"
This is why I changed to levelling with staff mastery, no waiting for cooldown, see it as a marksman as no waiting for mana.
If you were with a conjurer it would be effective for levelling, but for solo and nonresting, nah.

Originally Posted by cumeri

And AWD: Do you want to say you know better about marksman than players, who are actually playing a marksman?

no I'm not, I'm saying something about recharged arrows not working for nonstop levelling

Originally Posted by cumeri

for mana regeneration would be good to have high INT passive too

I thought about it, but then you need something from 4 different trees

in the end I second some wise words.
you have to find the levelling style which suits you best. Whether it being nonstop level without rest for reaching a high level fast or level with rest while you just enjoy it and chat with your friends.

[CumeriTarenes]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

no I'm not, I'm saying something about recharged arrows not working for nonstop levelling

I thought about it, but then you need something from 4 different trees

ok...I just made a test. I used slow bow and attacked with recharged arrows lvl 5. I only used normal hits and steped back between the attacks. The moment I killed the mob I had a loss of 20 mana points.

The mana regeneration for a lvl 50 with INT passive lvl 5 is the same as mana consumption on lvl 5.

Of course lower lvls have less INT and maybe less points for high INT passive. But in the time you go in position to kill the next mob your mana will be full. You have to go in max rang to the next mob...in the while you can regenerate mana.
That means recharged arrows is not mana eating like you say. But you know better because you play a marksman I guess. Of course you cannot lvl non stop with recharged arrows, but you cannot lvl non stop with another setup too. But using recharged arrows means less resting.

And...you need actually 5 discipline trees to put points in all the things I mentioned. But you know better about marksman.


btw...another tip: put points in cat reflexes for lvling setup too if you have spare points. More evades=more hp=less resting

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

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I've heard of people who did nonstop levelling with a marks. So it's possible, using both bow trees means dex passive plus damage passive of 10% if you get it on level 5.
then you need some bonuses for your hit chances.
Maybe some damage reduction.
and dex.

I'm just saying what I know and I know this, you can try different setups for yourself intil you find the right one, that's what I did with my warlock

[Miraculix]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

If you were with a conjurer it would be effective for levelling, but for solo and nonresting, nah.

LOL. Okey, if YOU say so, then it must be true. A warlock who doesn't even know the spells of his own class is giving me advice on how to level MY class. Okey. I guess you know better than me what works best for leveling.

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Angelwnged_Devil

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I kill fast enough, thanks...

I kill fast enough using only normal hits on a hunter WITHOUT any non-passive dmg boosts as well.

Oh, another thing...since she's in Alsius, she can get the Amulet of Emanation which is +100 mana.

About the lots of mobs thing, you can use a different setup if you find tons of mobs around - max arrow mastery and ignus them, or Lightning Arrow.

But even with lots of mobs around, I rarely have mana or health problems on both my Marksman or Hunter.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

LOL. Okey, if YOU say so, then it must be true. A warlock who doesn't even know the spells of his own class is giving me advice on how to level MY class. Okey. I guess you know better than me what works best for leveling.

well since you can't find any counter arguments well, yeah... you go flaming instead.

p.s. I DID talk with a marks from my clan about levelling and we tried to figure out the way on how to level nonstop. We calculated that the mana cost of each arrow, the amount of arrows to kill a mob, and the mana regeneration time in nonattack stance didn't match.
So obviously recharged arrows was not the way of levelling nonstop. It was mentioned that when you run between mobs who are far away from each other you will get enough mana back to kill another mob.

What if there are enough mobs in a circle around you but not enough to use area spells (area spells needs mana too remember.) Then what? You'll have to attack the next one right after.

You probably kill mobs fast enough with recharged arrows, but if there are enough mobs you won't have enough mana.
As I mentioned before that's why I changed to staff mastery as a levelling build, when there were a lot of mobs spread out my spells were in cooldown when I reached the next, that was annoying as hell, so now I'm independent of it, the only problem is a common one, when there's not enough mobs around.
Try to contrast it with the mana problem and you'll see why I changed from spellcasting to buffcasting.

Originally Posted by necrovarus

Oh, another thing...since she's in Alsius, she can get the Amulet of Emanation which is +100 mana.

I guess you are familiar with the slash damage rings in syrtis too, this'll just help the damage, and the guy who levelled nonstop was from another realm (which is why he didn't tell, realm secret.)
this means it will be even easier in syrtis.

You can continue to whine about how much I'm wrong or you can start testing builds until you crack the nut. (this is not to you necro)

[ncvr]

Did you calculate the mana regenerated while actually attacking the mob?

Mana regens once per second. Mana used by Recharged Arrows(5) is 20 mana per arrow. There are 3 seconds between each shot (with the recommended slow/30 bow).

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

Did you calculate the mana regenerated while actually attacking the mob?

Mana regens once per second. Mana used by Recharged Arrows(5) is 20 mana per arrow. There are 3 seconds between each shot (with the recommended slow/30 bow).

The thing is not everyone uses a slow/30 bow

[CumeriTarenes]

oh damn....this thread turned into totally BS


first: mana regen is more than 1per sec...at least for my marksman. It depends on INT. And slow bow is 3,5 sec between each shoot with slow weapon

second: of course you have to use a slow bow with recharged...best mana/damage ratio. AWD...your last comment realy shows your lack of knowledge

third: A marksman cannot lvl nonstop allone. With no build at all. You have to rest after a certain number of kills. Depends on the kind of mobs and how much you have to run to find next mob.

With slow bow and recharged lvl 5 a lvl 50 marksman has no mana loss at all.

But people who don't play marksman know better, lol

[Miraculix]

You can level practically non-stop, if you do all the regen in running around for mobs. If you don't you can still level (almost) non-stop. I run out of mana after 10-12 mobs, and keep killing for another 10-12 until i'm low on health, by which point i have regened mana again (since recharged was turned off due to lack of mana) and can still take 2-3 mobs down using some powerful spells so they never even touch me. That means almost 22-27 mobs between rests, which is, when you experience it, almost non-stop. 27 mobs is a lot of time.

If you had even played a marksman AwD, you would know this. Now, you are just making shit up. I'm not the first and certainly not the only one to tell you about your bulshit posts lately. Learn to take a hint from people around you.